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Steering centre castle nut
« on: 01.01. 2025 18:22 »
I’m trying to assemble the steering and the castle nut does not fit into the top yoke.

Does it have to be screwed into the bottom yoke first before sliding into the top yoke and then adjusted?

Have not installed taper roller bearings yet for obvious reasons

Castle but is not the original and could not be to spec!

Just loosely assembling and correcting issues before paint

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Re: Steering centre castle nut
« Reply #1 on: 01.01. 2025 18:40 »
That doesn't sound right.
Bearings are cup and ball, sticking the balls in with grease is a real trick.
Nut is sleeve nut 67-5023 - this adjusts bearings
This is locked by dome nut 67-5024 after the yoke is pinched up.
Once bearings are set the top yoke is locked by pinch bolt and nut.
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Re: Steering centre castle nut
« Reply #2 on: 01.01. 2025 19:10 »
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Re: Steering centre castle nut
« Reply #3 on: 01.01. 2025 22:25 »
Was referring to #29  *eek*

Found the original, measured the new compared to OEM and it’s thicker.
Just the OEM one is rusty.


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Re: Steering centre castle nut
« Reply #4 on: 01.01. 2025 23:07 »
OK makes sense.  If its thicker it probably won't work as its got internal and external threads.  Time for the wire brush *smile*
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Re: Steering centre castle nut
« Reply #5 on: 02.01. 2025 00:12 »
I see you are fitting Taper roller bearings. I fitted SRM ones to my 51 Plunger frame but then learned afterwards that I had to grind out the internal shoulder in the head stock.
I think this only applies to Plunger Frames but check yours's first. If they are SRM ones it is in fine print at the bottom of their documentation, if my memory serves me correctly.
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Re: Steering centre castle nut
« Reply #6 on: 02.01. 2025 00:31 »
Thanks for the heads up Russ!
Won’t be a problem for mine though as it’s a 62 swingarm model

Just wondering if I should buy another sleeve or clean up the original one I have
Probably will be like my gearbox bearings and not fit  *smiley4*

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Re: Steering centre castle nut
« Reply #7 on: 02.01. 2025 09:25 »
Given that there's so much repro sh*t out there, there's a lot to be said for using original parts if at all possible.

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Re: Steering centre castle nut
« Reply #8 on: 02.01. 2025 09:44 »
  A Rex notes, there is a lot of it about. At least an original part fitted when the bike was built, and I for one like to retain as much of the original machine as I can.

 When fitted, this part is not seen. So with an original to hand, cleaning it up and ensuring the inner and outer threads fit the top nut and the steering stem top thread as they should is going to save some hassle. These threads are very fine and easily damaged but when all is as it should be, both should tighten down smoothly with no roughness or binding.

 For those folks using standard cup and cone, the trick is to assemble lower yoke with well greased balls to stick them in place, carefully pass the stem up through the steering head, add the top balls, top cone, dust cover and screw on the "castle nut" stem adjuster. Three hands useful to do this! Tightening the adjuster sets the bearings.

 Top yoke then slides down onto the dust cover, yoke pinch bolt removed and slot opened up makes it easy, but may still need a good smack.

 Looks to be you have a new aftermarket adjuster which is, as often found, not quite right for the job.

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Re: Steering centre castle nut
« Reply #9 on: 02.01. 2025 11:11 »
Did this job last year.  In my case the sleeve was worn but not to excess but the cover nut was so it would not do up.  I new nut with the existing sleeve worked out well.  I had a choice of original nuts without the damper hole or aftermarket ones with so I went for the original and drilled the hole.
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Re: Steering centre castle nut
« Reply #10 on: 02.01. 2025 15:45 »
Mine's cup and cone.  I leave a tiny amount of play so's not to overload the bearings.  Last thing anyone wants to do is to do the job again due to flattened bearings.  Installation advice for cup and cone is spot on - get the missus to help *eek* *eek*
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Re: Steering centre castle nut
« Reply #11 on: 02.01. 2025 16:20 »
I had my bike nicely balanced up on a bike lift and cut a plank of wood (misses substitute *smile*) to just fit under the bottom yoke. Then I put the forks and yoke in (mistake, should have left the fork stanchions off) then propped the plank under so I could hold it while I fitted the top bearing and yoke.  All fine until I took the plank away and hadn't reckoned on the C o f G moving so far forward the bike went to launch itself off the stand.  Front wheel was 2ft off the ground so once it started there was a long way to go. Just held it.  Lesson learned.
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Re: Steering centre castle nut
« Reply #12 on: 02.01. 2025 16:39 »
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All fine until I took the plank away and hadn't reckoned on the C o f G moving so far forward the bike went to launch itself off the stand.  Front wheel was 2ft off the ground so once it started there was a long way to go. Just held it.  Lesson learned.

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