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Vreg or DVR2
« on: 22.10. 2024 11:45 »
I have a Vreg running 12 volts on the Tribsa. Seems to me the cut in revs need to be quite high before the ammeter shows a charge. Can anyone say if the DVR2 cuts in at lower speed?
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Re: Vreg or DVR2
« Reply #1 on: 22.10. 2024 12:07 »
My DVR2 needs quite a few revs to kick in but after that it charges down to just off tick over.  I'm putting this down to my dynamo having stood a long time and having very little residual magnetism.  Does yours need high revs even after its been running and charging a few mins?  In my case it would start to charge after a decent blip of the throttle to around 2000 revs than its fine down to under 1000.  I think mine just needs more miles since the dynamo rebuild to build up a stronger residual magnetism. It may not have help that I flashed mine over to neg earth.
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Re: Vreg or DVR2
« Reply #2 on: 22.10. 2024 14:03 »
My DVR behaves in much the same way as limeyrobs probably because the bike does not get ridden as often as it should be. Having said that, one notable feature is that at idle there is no discharge. I too opted for -ve earth (12v) without any problems. At the same time I also converted the dynamo to belt drive. In my opinion the DVR is a fine regulator and has proved to be very reliable in use.

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Re: Vreg or DVR2
« Reply #3 on: 22.10. 2024 14:29 »
Hard to say Slash frankly.
With either, the dynamo has to be spinning fast enough to get above battery voltage before it will cut in and charge. At 6v, it should normally kick in around 1000rpm, at 12v somewhere between 1500-1800 at a rough guess - unless the dynamo has been rebuilt with "12v" armature and field windings, when it should behave pretty much as per the 6v set-up.
But quite often, a dynamo will need a good few revs to kick in for the first time, even after quite a short lay-off. And will then behave a bit better for the rest of the time the engine's running. A lot of us have this experience.

I haven't noticed any significant difference in cut-IN speed of the 2 regulators, personally - but the cut OUT on the DVR is cleaner on descending rpm, which eliminates the discharge seen on the ammeter at tickover speeds with some regulators, including mechanical ones.
If you're at 12v and want low revs cut-in, not much for it but to fit the finer 12v windings to be honest.

This all assumes the dyn is in good nick of course, and doing what it's meant to. A dirty commutator, damaged brushes or poor connections will cause a reduction in performance.
(You could always stick a meter between a wire linking D and F at the dynamo and a good earth, start her up and then see (tacho) or guess how many rpm are needed to get the output above 12v to give you a clue. Anything over say 2000rpm wouldn't be good.)

I use DVRs at 12v with original Lucas spec windings myself. That's OK because I live in the boondocks and don't have to tootle around at low revs with big wattage lights on. These days I use LEDS on dynamo bikes, so it doesn't matter any more anyway. But if you want low rpm cut-in regardless, you either need to run at 6v or get those 12v windings.
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Re: Vreg or DVR2
« Reply #4 on: 22.10. 2024 19:44 »
VReg2..avoid at all costs. Sometimes forgets to "switch on" and start charging, and won't charge from a depleted battery either.
If you mention this to the maker (Osbourne) he gets very shirty and accuses you of having wired it up incorrectly, but these are known faults as listed on "Matchless Clueless" some years back.
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Re: Vreg or DVR2
« Reply #5 on: 22.10. 2024 20:26 »
Avoid the Wassel one too.  The instructions for neg earth are impenetrable and appear to require reconfiguring the internal wiring in the dynamo and (in my case) even when you do that and watch the on-line videos it still doesn't work.  DVR2 worked out the box.
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Re: Vreg or DVR2
« Reply #6 on: 23.10. 2024 07:20 »
a DVR2 will give you lights with a disconnected or discharged battery. A V reg 2 won't. Not normally a problem but there are times when it could be significant.
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Re: Vreg or DVR2
« Reply #7 on: 23.10. 2024 23:44 »
Vreg needs a battery connected to work. Bloody awful things.

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Re: Vreg or DVR2
« Reply #8 on: 31.10. 2024 13:24 »
The best combination I found was to have the DVR2 but also to have the dynamo rewound as a 12 volt (Priory magnetos thank you very much). Cuts in nice and early super stable charging etc etc. Couple that with LED blubs and the system suffers much less strain. Now i've jinxed it *smile*

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Re: Vreg or DVR2
« Reply #9 on: 01.11. 2024 11:33 »
Yep, a 12V dynamo upgrade is good...far better than a standard 6V dynamo regulated at 12V.

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Re: Vreg or DVR2
« Reply #10 on: 01.11. 2024 14:53 »
my 6 v system was working fine but hard to find bulbs and the headlight not very bright .....changed to DVR 2 and pos earth 12volts much improved lighting and able to run LEDs  that draw less power.