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Sealing oil tank
« on: 06.10. 2024 17:12 »
A10 oil tanks are known to split along the seams, I've seen it a couple of times. Anybody had experience of sealing an oil tank with petrol tank sealer? Obviously inlet and outlet plus breather tower need sealing. Tank is thoroughly clean although there may be some residual in the seams.
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Re: Sealing oil tank
« Reply #1 on: 06.10. 2024 19:01 »
I wouldn't go down that route. I'd braze it.

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Re: Sealing oil tank
« Reply #2 on: 06.10. 2024 20:51 »
Agreed, braze or mig.  Braze should be a bit more forgiving.  Its cracked because its stressed and moving so a sealer won't work, you have to mechanically join the two parts.
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Re: Sealing oil tank
« Reply #3 on: 06.10. 2024 21:56 »
I've gas welded them previously.  Mig is hard and more susceptible to cracking again and once brazed you can't go back to welding.  I think you might have a point over sealer. It goes hard and would probably crack with vibration,  although it doesnt seem to affect petrol tanks? Oh well, just a thought.
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Re: Sealing oil tank
« Reply #4 on: 06.10. 2024 22:06 »
I've brazed a couple, successfully. Pressure test by closing the holes and fitting a petrol pipe to the breather and blowing into it whilst painting the seams with soap solution. It shouldn't crack again if properly rubber mounted. The problem is that many people don't fit the rubbers and sleeves properly. This page might be useful......
https://sites.google.com/site/priorymagnetos/oil-tank-and-tool-box

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Re: Sealing oil tank
« Reply #5 on: 06.10. 2024 23:05 »
needs to be spotlessly cleaned of any oil as the heat will draw it out but brazing or silicon bronze mig if you know someone with a set up .

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Re: Sealing oil tank
« Reply #6 on: 07.10. 2024 23:07 »
Oooh, imagine the problems when the 'liner' breaks up (it will sooner or later). It's bad enough in the petrol tank, but the oil tank?

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Re: Sealing oil tank
« Reply #7 on: 08.10. 2024 08:12 »
Yes, its a fatigue / stress failure near a bracket that has caused a crack and leak.  The crack has relieved some of the stress but caused a leak.  The crack will continue to grow.  Brazing is a good fix because its a bit flexible and the flame heat will heat treat the metal and relax the residual stress.  Once its fixed the key is to fit it with the least tension on the brackets so its worth fitting it and fettling the bracket and mounts before brazing to make sure the the tank is a good fit before its all stiffened up.
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Re: Sealing oil tank
« Reply #8 on: 08.10. 2024 11:47 »
My oil tanked failed at a very young age, brazing was the solution and it's proved leakage free for the last 55yrs
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Re: Sealing oil tank
« Reply #9 on: 07.11. 2024 10:44 »
 Mine leaked and I sealed it, perfect for 9 years.

We tried to weld it up but we could not get everything clean enough and the split kept moving up the seam.
 The sealer is a silver color,  so  when you do an oil change you can see the tank is clean as a whistle.

 The sealer smooths over the crease between the panels, locking in any old garbage that you think you cleaned out by swishing solvent.

 Made for gasoline, the oil certainly won't be breaking it down. At this point I like the benefits enough that I would seal a non leaking tank.

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Re: Sealing oil tank
« Reply #10 on: 07.11. 2024 19:36 »
Oooh, imagine the problems when the 'liner' breaks up (it will sooner or later). It's bad enough in the petrol tank, but the oil tank?
G'day Jools.
I had that problem with my A7SS racer. I made an alloy oil tank and lined it with Kreem. Running on methanol it got into the oil and melted the Kreem. At rest it wasn't a problem but with the motor going a flap of Kreem blocked the outlet. Oil pressure would drop after 1 lap of the Creek. Took ages to find the problem.
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