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Offline MidlandsA10

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WANTED: TLS Front Brake
« on: 01.09. 2024 19:04 »
Dear All

I'm looking for a TLS front brake for an A65 (8 inch). Has anyone got one lying around?

Based in the UK, but happy to pay overseas postage for a good deal.

Best

Tom

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Re: WANTED: TLS Front Brake
« Reply #1 on: 01.09. 2024 23:41 »
Mate just in case you didn't know, it's not just a straight fit. (I assume you're fitting to A10 / A7 forks). Adaptation to the brakeplate and/or fork sliders will be needed
I found it best to use early A50 / A65 fork sliders because they engage with the brakeplate properly.

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Re: WANTED: TLS Front Brake
« Reply #2 on: 02.09. 2024 10:12 »
Thank you for the info! The plan is to use A65 fork sliders (and stanchions) - this is for a second A10 that's being built as a scrambler.

Kind regards

Tom

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Re: WANTED: TLS Front Brake
« Reply #3 on: 02.09. 2024 10:32 »
G'day Tom.
Building a scrambler hay. Have a look at this topic. A few years ago and 14 pages but might give you a few ideas.
https://www.a7a10.net/forum/index.php?topic=6024.0
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Re: WANTED: TLS Front Brake
« Reply #4 on: 02.09. 2024 12:31 »
The early, that is upto the 1965 season, fork bottoms are exactly the same parts as for the A10 for the full width hub.

The 1968 Lightning/Spitfire damper rod forks have a longer peg to engage with the TLS brake plate.

Photo shows 1968 forks at the top of the photo and late A10/early A65 at the bottom of the photo.

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Re: WANTED: TLS Front Brake
« Reply #5 on: 02.09. 2024 12:54 »
Hmm, mine didn't work like that J. Also, the mudguard stay brackets are different. (Well, mine were) On my sliders the brakeplate slider peg arrangement - or the corresponding part slot on the brakeplate would have needed building up to 'engage'. As you say, the peg was extended in '68 so that it works with the TLS brakeplate.
I don't pretend to be an authority on the subject, just stating my experience, (I have a few spare sliders to prove it if anyone is in the market  *eek* ;)

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Re: WANTED: TLS Front Brake
« Reply #6 on: 02.09. 2024 13:38 »
My A10 came with a 8" TLS that gave the false impression of being correctly fitted and safe.  The peg engaged and the stays fitted.  Actually someone had fitted a home made 1/8" spacer behind the wheel bearings and moved the wheel to one side and forced the stays.
I got the brake plate welded to extend the fork engagement on the peg and did a lot of fettling on the stays.  My brake is of a '68 A65 but the history of sliders is vague, key is that the spindle and sliders go together.  While the fork centres stay the same the offset of the wheel clamps changes (why??) so spindles have to match the sliders.
Its not a plug and play modification.  I think the easiest way is to fit a complete A65 front end, but of course these get bent more than the rest of the bike so finding a good one is hard.
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Re: WANTED: TLS Front Brake
« Reply #7 on: 02.09. 2024 13:58 »
Yep Rob, that's what I did... and why I mentioned it to the the OP.

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Re: WANTED: TLS Front Brake
« Reply #8 on: 02.09. 2024 15:42 »
Yes, its frustrating because we end up having to get the ally plate welded when we would probably like to get the steel slider welded, but there's a risk of distortion and in my case the sliders are chromed.
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Re: WANTED: TLS Front Brake
« Reply #9 on: 02.09. 2024 17:13 »
Thank you gents. Really useful. In that case, does anyone have a TLS brake and the sliders to accompany it?

Kind regards

Tom

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Re: WANTED: TLS Front Brake
« Reply #10 on: 02.09. 2024 20:42 »
If you try for the 1968 type forks be aware that almost none of the A10 parts, other than the bushes, oil seals, endcap bolts and bottom nut washer, will fit.

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Re: WANTED: TLS Front Brake
« Reply #11 on: 02.09. 2024 20:48 »
The photo shows on the left the BSA/Triumph TLS brake and on the right the Eddie Dow Duetto brake TLS to fit the 8 inch full width A10 drum. The difference in the anchor lug is significant.

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Re: WANTED: TLS Front Brake
« Reply #12 on: 21.10. 2024 18:12 »
Hi
Are you still looking for a 2LS front brake?
I am in the early stages of restoring a Super Rocket (a basket case x2!) It came with a front wheel and 2LS front brake.
I am fitting a standard one in its place so it is available if its any use.
I live near Huntingdon.
Allen
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