A10 engine metal xmas tree decorations (shims)

[jhg1958]

If you are doing all this work is it worthwhile fitting a cartridge filter?

John

[Macbeth]

If you are doing all this work is it worthwhile fitting a cartridge filter?

John

Prob not for me mate. I’ve looked about reading a lot & they appear problematic. I’m a very frequent oil changer. I love my big drums of diesel oil for my Guzzi & last BM

[Worty]

I get what you're saying Mac, but they are a good (and easy) addition - I and many others have had no problems with them.  With the Norton spin on set up, you can use relatively cheap Citroen 2CV filters.  Part of the reason for my wrecked engine was the disintegration of four fibre ATD gears (don't ask), the debris from those shredded gears caused havoc in my motor, especially with a plain timing side bush.  Don't tend to run the oil much beyond 1200m, even with a filter.

[berger]

a lot of black oil is down to poor valve gear or blow by on the rings. i fitted a filter and use straight 40 or 50 summer riding only though, i change mine with filter at 1500 miles ish and cut the filter open to have look , up to now 3 filters later everything is good

[BSA500]

Another vote for the external filter. When I have had the engine down for other reasons(mainly bloody shims) the sludge trap is lovely and clean.

[Greybeard]

When I delivered my bike to the new owner I took along a nearly full 25 ltr drum of oil. The chap said, "Does the bike use a lot of oil then? ". I explained why I change the oil, and filter, frequently.

Off topic: My new BSA  does not leak a drop 🙄

[limeyrob]

When i was using an A65 for everyday communing and clocking up a lot of miles the sludge trap blocked at around 15,000 miles (perhaps less, I can't remember) so when I got the rebuilt bottom end back from BSA I fitted a filter (Off a Simca I seem to recall) in the return. I was not concerned about debris, my objective was to reduce the speed at which the sludge trap was filling up.  I sold the bike with around 36,000 on it and the engine was fine.  I've just bought a filter unit for the A10 I'm putting together, its probably an overkill given how little mileage it will do but I so hate the uncertainty of the sludge trap and how the only way to check it is an engine out strip down.

[berger]

GB says Off topic: My new BSA  does not leak a drop 🙄         -------YET funnily enough i have just checked betsy's drip tray and nothing on it, and she is OLD she only sweats a bit when i make her have it and she has heavy breathing with all the exciting times we have

[Worty]

GB says Off topic: My new BSA  does not leak a drop 🙄         -------YET funnily enough i have just checked betsy's drip tray and nothing on it, and she is OLD she only sweats a bit when i make her have it and she has heavy breathing with all the exciting times we have

Fnarr, fnarr - inuendo city Bergs

[Greybeard]

The expression 'Belt and Braces: I decided that starting off with a clean sludge trap, an external filter and mongrade oil was how I wanted to go. I frequently changed the oil and filter 👍

[Macbeth]

This is my wallet your throwing about the room you blokes  .. yeah ok ok ive revisited the subject for a few hours & seen enough to put it back on the stove. I like the fitment where the chaps put the filter in the tool box. Engines are only expensive if you have to do them twice

[limeyrob]

The filter complete was about £25 when I got one a few weeks ago.

[Macbeth]

The filter complete was about £25 when I got one a few weeks ago.

Def not a $ issue yet a complexity added & heavy on failure. Yet relooking at it ive secured thousands of 2800 psi hydraulic hoses in my work & a new hose fitted well is as secure as it gets. I had not seen them in the tool box before.. I like that idea as I always carry a tool pouch in a pack anyway

[limeyrob]

Its age, I can't abide over paying
I've got a very nice new set of oil pipes and its paining me to work out how to make them fit

[Macbeth]

The expression 'Belt and Braces: I decided that starting off with a clean sludge trap, an external filter and mongrade oil was how I wanted to go. I frequently changed the oil and filter 👍

I read some say they removed the sludge trap & others clean it. Putting what I’ve read together I’m thinking removal & putting a filter in might be the best long term option. Sound right ?