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Offline Greybeard

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Re: Ancient metal shaper still good
« Reply #1 on: 14.02. 2023 12:16 »
GB,

Congratulations on your new acquisition.

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Re: Ancient metal shaper still good
« Reply #2 on: 14.02. 2023 19:49 »
G'day GB.
When I was an apprentice the company bought a new shaper. Made in China. It was so out of square it took me a week to rectify so it would shape square. *pull hair out*
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Re: Ancient metal shaper still good
« Reply #3 on: 14.02. 2023 19:55 »
We bought a new two-axis machine vice at work as the old one was getting too sloppy, and the Chinese (expensive) replacement had more slop from new than the original had after years of use.
No wonder their weather balloons veer off-course. ;)

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Re: Ancient metal shaper still good
« Reply #4 on: 14.02. 2023 20:00 »
No wonder their weather balloons veer off-course. ;)
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Re: Ancient metal shaper still good
« Reply #5 on: 15.02. 2023 02:03 »
I would have expected a better cut rate than thaat from a 10Hp motor
The big mill down staris is supposed to be able to cut 3" deep x 1" wide cut in a single pass
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Re: Ancient metal shaper still good
« Reply #6 on: 15.02. 2023 08:29 »
In the 60's I worked in the toolroom of a local engineering firm. We bought a new Elliot horizontal mill - I presume in that era it was not of Chinese manufacture, but it was a pile of junk nonetheless. The knee upfeed was way too fast and likely to ram the workpiece into the cutter before the operator could stop it, and the three levers under the knee confusing as to which axis they controlled. Dodging inch x a tenth of an inch swarf coming off the machine was a trifle hazardous too. But the final straw was when our fitter Les set the machine on a cut whilst we took our coffee break. Ten minutes later we came back to find the bed on the floor with the remains of the leadscrew thrashing wildly about. Les had to dive in to switch it off. Had he forgotten to set the bed stop? No - the machine had sheared the stop off and carried on to destruction. So it's not only Chinese stuff that's suspect .....
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Re: Ancient metal shaper still good
« Reply #7 on: 15.02. 2023 08:34 »
I would have expected a better cut rate than thaat from a 10Hp motor
The big mill down staris is supposed to be able to cut 3" deep x 1" wide cut in a single pass

Going by the size of the cutting tool used in the film that level of cut (or anywhere even near it) would be impossible.