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Amazing, (if true)
« on: 11.12. 2022 17:41 »
The passenger steamer SS Warrimoo was quietly knifing its way through the waters of the mid-Pacific on its way from Vancouver to Australia. The navigator had just finished working out a star fix and brought Captain John DS. Phillips, the result. The Warrimoo’s position was LAT 0º 31’ N and LONG 179 30’ W. The date was 31 December 1899.
“Know what this means?” First Mate Payton broke in, “We’re only a few miles from the intersection of the Equator and the International Date Line”. Captain Phillips was prankish enough to take full advantage of the opportunity for achieving the navigational freak of a lifetime.
He called his navigators to the bridge to check & double check the ship’s position. He changed course slightly so as to bear directly on his mark. Then he adjusted the engine speed.
The calm weather & clear night worked in his favor. At mid-night the SS Warrimoo lay on the Equator at exactly the point where it crossed the International Date Line. The consequences of this bizarre position were many:
The bow of the ship was in the Southern Hemisphere & in the middle of summer.
The stern was in the Northern Hemisphere & in the middle of winter.
The date in the aft part of the ship was December 31, 1899.
The date in the forward part of the ship was January 1, 1900.
The ship was therefore concurrently in:
two different days,
two different months,
two different years,
two different seasons
and in two different centuries.
Euller, John (Sept.1953). "A freak of navigation". Ships and the Sea. 3. p. 18
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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #1 on: 11.12. 2022 20:33 »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Warrimoo

"However, the navigational technology of the time was not accurate enough to have fixed her position so precisely. Whether Warrimoo ever achieved the feat claimed cannot be verified. This story makes the common claim that the new century started in the year 1900".

Whether true or not, she still has an interesting history - built at Swan Hunter, Wallsend and sunk in the Mediterranean in 1918 by a French destroyer!
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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #2 on: 11.12. 2022 23:00 »

that the writer thought a century started in the year 0 or 1900, where in fact it started in 1901.


Please persuade me this is fact 🤔 Is a child not alive until its first birthday?
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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #3 on: 12.12. 2022 05:43 »
Well true or not it is the sort of thing captains would do.
Very common down here is the double new year cruises by crossing the date line twice .
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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #4 on: 12.12. 2022 07:21 »
Well true or not it is the sort of thing captains would do.
Very common down here is the double new year cruises by crossing the date line twice .
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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #5 on: 12.12. 2022 12:42 »

that the writer thought a century started in the year 0 or 1900, where in fact it started in 1901.


Please persuade me this is fact 🤔 Is a child not alive until its first birthday?

In the Gregorian calendar, there is no year Zero. Year Zero is just a popular imagination of man as he has become used to counting numbers from 0 to 9. Problems started when someone decided that 1 AD will follow immediately after 1 BC. This means the number of years between 1 BC and 1 AD is 1 year and not 2 years.
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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #6 on: 12.12. 2022 17:35 »
Makes sense to me. A year 0 would be a nonsense if the years counted down to Christ's birth (not getting into whether that was an actual event or not!) and then counted up again after His birth, as they do.
A baby is very definitely alive and kicking at say, six months old, and that's what his age is given as. To say "my son is 0" would also be a nonsense.

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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #7 on: 12.12. 2022 19:44 »
i must be ok i'm 6hundred and 66, seen it all but still skint. such is life or what a life without a wife what a b------d with one . sorry couldn't help it never been married , who needs a piece of paper  *beer* i will have more beer. my girl lets me bake engines in the house. isn't it brill . or isn't it amazing! and true *good3*

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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #8 on: 12.12. 2022 22:28 »
Makes sense to me. A year 0 would be a nonsense if the years counted down to Christ's birth (not getting into whether that was an actual event or not!) and then counted up again after His birth, as they do.
A baby is very definitely alive and kicking at say, six months old, and that's what his age is given as. To say "my son is 0" would also be a nonsense.
After a year of life a child has its first birthday.
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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #9 on: 13.12. 2022 03:38 »
What GB said but...

His first birthday is actually at 0
His 1st birthday is the first anniversary of his birth i.e. one year later, his second birthday in fact!
so who's confused here *????* ;)
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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #10 on: 13.12. 2022 09:12 »
After a year of life a child has its first birthday.

As he's then lived for a year and this is his first anniversary of his birth (ie his birthday) then clearly that's correct. After this birthday he then begins the 2nd year of his life, but that doesn't mean his age is given as "two".
Age is the number of completed years since birth. ;)

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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #11 on: 13.12. 2022 09:42 »
After a year of life a child has its first birthday.

As he's then lived for a year and this is his first anniversary of his birth (ie his birthday) then clearly that's correct. After this birthday he then begins the 2nd year of his life, but that doesn't mean his age is given as "two".
Age is the number of completed years since birth. ;)
You could say the child is in his second year. Surely, (don't call me Shirley) the same thing applies to calender years; 2022 is the twenty-second year since the century change;  during 2000 we were in the first year since millennium change.
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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #12 on: 13.12. 2022 20:52 »
The last day of the millennium was 31 Dec 2000.

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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #13 on: 13.12. 2022 22:12 »
why do we in the british country turn the clocks back and forward when the farmers don't give a monkeys anymore and the schools only have 5 hour days.  and who says this is the year 2022. and who was the magician called jesus who fed 5000 with a loaf of bread  i hope it was hovis ] and 5 stickle back fish? and how did she give birth when she hadn't had sex.  who is father christmas? i will tell you now he isn't coming to your new build property [ home ] because you haven't got a chimney you are now tied up to a gas and electric company with your not so smart meter .why are you programmed to believe everything we are taught at school? when it is an agenda of control by the ones clinging on to their position of privilege . why is it great britain when all they did was drag drunks out of the ale house and hold them prisoner on ships while sending them on missions of pillaging wealth from around the world to pay those doffing their caps to get a shift in a sweat house and sleep over a long length of rope on their belly's  ok last of all why do we allow governments to syphon off public money into their gang in the private members club? why do management  get to be millionaires in one one year of failing instead of 20 years of doing the right thing [ yes Mr dodgy Dave cammoron] i need to harness all the hate opposing footy fans have for each other and start the revolution . now who has got a few tiger tanks spare. this could be amazing or true take your pick or take your money as Micheal Miles once said. thankyou for listening those black&tans mixed with french brandy work wonders, that reminds me what happened to double diamond works wonders . Now is this amazing or true. answers on a post card or text or phone to me , all profits will go to the thousand charity's now running the country for the plebs while the directors of said charity's buy another yacht . please give generously we might stop the private water company's killing our stickle backs . the whole system is dead because all that matters is GREED ,  and don't get me on sorting my waste to SAVE the planet when the privileged fly twice around the world with a bag of syphoned off money and bring a piece of cheese back from some far away county . and then we have people paying to park at WORK! broken britain yes REVOLUTION who's with me. rant over . if i get any more worked up worty's barrel base studs and nuts will be stripped  *problem* *pull hair out* *beer* only joking get a sense of humour, problem is it's amazing and TRUE!!!

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Re: Amazing, (if true)
« Reply #14 on: 13.12. 2022 23:36 »
why do we in the british country turn the clocks back and forward when the farmers don't give a monkeys anymore and the schools only have 5 hour days.  and who says this is the year 2022. and who was the magician called jesus who fed 5000 with a loaf of bread  i hope it was hovis ] and 5 stickle back fish? and how did she give birth when she hadn't had sex.  who is father christmas? i will tell you now he isn't coming to your new build property [ home ] because you haven't got a chimney you are now tied up to a gas and electric company with your not so smart meter .why are you programmed to believe everything we are taught at school? when it is an agenda of control by the ones clinging on to their position of privilege . why is it great britain when all they did was drag drunks out of the ale house and hold them prisoner on ships while sending them on missions of pillaging wealth from around the world to pay those doffing their caps to get a shift in a sweat house and sleep over a long length of rope on their belly's  ok last of all why do we allow governments to syphon off public money into their gang in the private members club? why do management  get to be millionaires in one one year of failing instead of 20 years of doing the right thing [ yes Mr dodgy Dave cammoron] i need to harness all the hate opposing footy fans have for each other and start the revolution . now who has got a few tiger tanks spare. this could be amazing or true take your pick or take your money as Micheal Miles once said. thankyou for listening those black&tans mixed with french brandy work wonders, that reminds me what happened to double diamond works wonders . Now is this amazing or true. answers on a post card or text or phone to me , all profits will go to the thousand charity's now running the country for the plebs while the directors of said charity's buy another yacht . please give generously we might stop the private water company's killing our stickle backs . the whole system is dead because all that matters is GREED ,  and don't get me on sorting my waste to SAVE the planet when the privileged fly twice around the world with a bag of syphoned off money and bring a piece of cheese back from some far away county . and then we have people paying to park at WORK! broken britain yes REVOLUTION who's with me. rant over . if i get any more worked up worty's barrel base studs and nuts will be stripped  *problem* *pull hair out* *beer* only joking get a sense of humour, problem is it's amazing and TRUE!!!
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