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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #15 on: 05.10. 2022 22:09 »
Beautiful work, Andrew.
All you need is the correct horn and Tricon switch and it would be almost perfect. The left exhaust pipe looks like one of Armour's ill fitting concoctions.
I hope that it goes as well as it looks.
Not trying to be negative but constructive.
I can only hope that mine will again look as well but I think that time is against me.

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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #16 on: 05.10. 2022 22:24 »
An absolute GEM!

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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #17 on: 05.10. 2022 23:03 »
Beautiful work, Andrew.
All you need is the correct horn and Tricon switch and it would be almost perfect. The left exhaust pipe looks like one of Armour's ill fitting concoctions.
I hope that it goes as well as it looks.
Not trying to be negative but constructive.
I can only hope that mine will again look as well but I think that time is against me.
I managed to pick up the correct tricon (Britax) switch at an autojumble at the weekend. What is the correct horn? You're right about the Armours exhaust. I still have the original but, if found to be unusable, what's the alternative?

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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #18 on: 05.10. 2022 23:44 »
Hi Andrew
Bike looks GREAT *ex*
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what's the alternative?
I do not know if "Cake st Classics" is still on the go or not? but I bought a siamese pipe from Roger that looks 100% like the original BSA. The sharp LH side bend is a heavier walled tube and fits the head correctly, the way the 2:1 joint is made is as original

May I ask where you got the wide dual seat from?  I need one

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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #19 on: 06.10. 2022 07:10 »


May I ask where you got the wide dual seat from?  I need one

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The base is original, repaired by me. The cover and sponge fitted by RK Leighton. I'll have a look and see if I can help you with a seat.

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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #20 on: 06.10. 2022 07:31 »
Trev, you reckon that horn is incorrect?
I have the same one which I thought was the original. Can you give us a pic what the original looked like? Ta.

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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #21 on: 06.10. 2022 07:34 »
Andrew, these are pictures of the correct horn, note the bezel should have the lip around the inside perimeter but if not available the flat one will do the job.
Horn is silver, the bracket is double set and painted black. The tone disc is silver also.
The siamese pipes are a bit hard to find . There is a bloke here in Australia who can make absolutely excellent sets but he chooses not to make any exhausts at the present.
I had him make me two sets of pipes and two Burgess type mufflers for my RGS and BVSR.

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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #22 on: 06.10. 2022 07:37 »
Jools, all of the swinging arm A7 & A10s used the horn with the corrugated tone disc 1954-7 and thereafter when the nacelle was not fitted.

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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #23 on: 06.10. 2022 07:38 »
Lovely job Andrew, enjoy
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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #24 on: 06.10. 2022 08:19 »
Andrew, these are pictures of the correct horn, note the bezel should have the lip around the inside perimeter but if not available the flat one will do the job.
Horn is silver, the bracket is double set and painted black. The tone disc is silver also.
The siamese pipes are a bit hard to find . There is a bloke here in Australia who can make absolutely excellent sets but he chooses not to make any exhausts at the present.
I had him make me two sets of pipes and two Burgess type mufflers for my RGS and BVSR.
Thanks Trev. I think this is the Lucas HF1235

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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #25 on: 06.10. 2022 21:54 »
No Andrew, the horn is a HF1234. The HF1235 is the poverty model with painted bezel and cheese head screws.
I have converted many HF1235 to HF1234, mostly 12V from cars. I make new coils and fit them, bugger of a job, and chrome the bezel then fit the correct dome headed set screws.
Some bezels have " Lucas Altette" stamped on them but I fill the lettering with silver solder before plating.

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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #26 on: 06.10. 2022 21:59 »
Another item to look out for is an ammeter.
Originally the RGS was fitted with the "window" type. Hard to find these days.

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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #27 on: 07.10. 2022 00:01 »
Hi All
Andrew,
Any help on a seat base or more would be very much appreciated

Trev
Do you have a photo of a "window" type ammeter??  I cannot remember what my RGS came with or even if it had one  *sad2*

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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #28 on: 07.10. 2022 23:12 »
John, I am now having second thoughts on the ammeter. 1962 had the familiar type but I was thinking that 1963 had the window type. I can't find anything to confirm this, maybe my brain going soft.
Anyway, pictured is the ammeter on my Atlas, a 12 amp type.

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Re: Manchester Ship Canal RGS
« Reply #29 on: 08.10. 2022 00:20 »
Regarding the ammeter, the headlamp I have fitted is a new-old-stock item retrieved from a dealer in Wales. I know it is correct because it had the correct headlamp switch and the internal wiring, under the switch panel, was obviously original. Also, of course, the plug/socket arrangement looks original so I have assumed the ammeter is correct. The unit was supplied in the original Lucas box, somewhat dusty. I daren't say how much paid for it!!!