Author Topic: Magneto issue  (Read 1214 times)

Offline RDfella

  • Wise & Enlightened
  • *
  • Join Date: Aug 2017
  • Posts: 2210
  • Karma: 15
Re: Magneto issue
« Reply #15 on: 31.07. 2022 11:44 »
So why did they make them that way? Purely to cut costs or was there another reason? Certainly looks like a failure waiting to happen. Not even silver soldered.
'49 B31, '49 M21, '53 DOT, '58 Flash, '62 Flash special, '00 Firestorm, Weslake sprint bike.

Online groily

  • Wise & Enlightened
  • *
  • Join Date: Jul 2007
  • Posts: 1956
  • Karma: 33
    • www.brightsparkmagnetos.com
Re: Magneto issue
« Reply #16 on: 31.07. 2022 15:09 »
Shows how fragile the armtures can be.
Exactly! I've got a box of them too Julian.

Why did they make them like that RD . . .?? Well, I dunno! Everyone did similar, although I've only seen broken ones from Lucas, and K2Fs mostly.
Hard to compare the exact construction between makes without deliberately pulling good ones to bits, which isn't a good plan! The stainless R versions bucked the trend - very tasty. They made those in 15mm too, early on, and they are very solid.  Last one of those I saw was on an early KVFR, late '40s iirc..
That said, BTH never upped their shaft diameter, 15mm on all their bike mags with rotating coils, and I've never seen a snapped one. Nor a Bosch, also at 15, with steel-in-brass. If BTH flange-mounts were an easier fit on a wider range of machines, then I think we'd see more of them out there. The KC2 as fitted to many 5 and 6T Trihards is a darn good thing, as is the KC1.

A while ago I was hoping to have a batch of stainless armatures CNC machined up, but only got as far as 2 prototype MO1 magdynamo ones. Designed them so that the through screws (capheads, counterbored) had their heads at the accessible end, not under the slipring, so in theory dead easy to get to bits. But like many things, a project that fell by the wayside. Design needed some tweaking to get a bit more thread depth at the 'wrong' end (which required some small tweaks to the coil design in its turn), and the usual things, life etc, got in the way. Here'sa pic of what could have been!
Bill

Offline Slymo

  • Valued Contributor
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2018
  • Posts: 387
  • Karma: 3
Re: Magneto issue
« Reply #17 on: 02.08. 2022 05:01 »
In my case it wasn't that it wouldn't stay still while I was setting it up but that it would shift to a sweet spot on the final tighten. I definitely think that the lapping in with brasso would be the answer. Although it has been perfect since 2018 and as the Glaswegian engineer next door used to say "If it works leave it alone!." I did clean the points for the first time since then the other day though and blimey what a difference. Much smoother at speed, better idle and one kick starting again.
NZ

Online Billybream

  • Resident Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 682
  • Karma: 8
Re: Magneto issue
« Reply #18 on: 06.08. 2022 11:10 »
Well it was a snapped armature shaft, quickly sorted by Andrew at Priory Magnetos, now on its way back to me in in less than a week, he,s hoping to get back to enjoying some happy runs out again. Some good advice on maintaining backlash on pinion.
1960 Super Rocket, owned since 1966, back on the road 2012 after being laid up for 29yrs.