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Offline sean

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oil temp
« on: 26.06. 2022 04:11 »
anyone have a rough idea of the running oil temp rocker oil feed return line......need to replace the braided plastic hose between rockers and tank ......I assume origionally it was all copper

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Re: oil temp
« Reply #1 on: 26.06. 2022 04:25 »
Hi sean,
Yes you are right the original rocker feed lines were copper and worked very well. Be sure to check out the holes in the banjos arn't too large. From memory I think they are about i/8th diameter.

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Re: oil temp
« Reply #2 on: 26.06. 2022 09:33 »
Be sure to check out the holes in the banjos arn't too large. From memory I think they are about i/8th diameter.
No, much smaller; something like 1/64".
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Re: oil temp
« Reply #3 on: 26.06. 2022 10:16 »
The later swinging arm models used what BSA called a rubber sleeve to join the rocker oil line. I use a nitrile rubber fuel or oil hose for the join.

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Re: oil temp
« Reply #4 on: 26.06. 2022 12:03 »
Hi Sean, Julian is on the money. I imported my bike from England in 1983, where it had been rusting away for years ( likely not many years use after 1961 before it stopped ) and probably had been immersed under water - the gearbox internals had to be thrown.
The rocker feed is split and has a rubber connector sleeve. The surface of this rubber sleeve is "dimpled" for want of a better description. My best guess is that this rubber is original 61 years old or may have been replaced in the first 15 years - it fits OK, has no clamps and doesn't leak.  I think it a great improvement - to remove the rocker box, just undo the two banjos at the rockers and pull the copper line out of the rubber sleeve. Saves disturbing/undoing the oil tank fittings. I did watch it after I fitted the SRM oil pump with larger scavenge flowrate & pressure and no issues so far.
I measured the banjo orifices - orifi?  in mine, and they are 1.2 mm = 0.045". The standard oft-quoted size for my Flash is 3/64" or 1.19mm. So backpressure is also normal for my setup and hasn't blown the rubber off yet.
I think Gold Stars were 3/32" or 2.35mm, much larger than the Flash.
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Re: oil temp
« Reply #5 on: 26.06. 2022 23:59 »
Thanks for the replies and pics , previous owner cut the rocker return line at the first bend above the rocker box and ran a braided clear nylon type hose back to tank fitting …. I will have to make something up all that hose looks terrible …..

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Re: oil temp
« Reply #6 on: 27.06. 2022 00:00 »
Aren't the Exhaust and Inlet oil feeds supposed to be slightly different sizes?

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Re: oil temp
« Reply #7 on: 27.06. 2022 17:40 »
I'm using a piece of clear reinforced petrol pipe for that connection, gives me a reassuring view that the pump is returning oil to the tank and rockers during start up and whilst on the road with just a glance.
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Re: oil temp
« Reply #8 on: 27.06. 2022 23:50 »
Jools, Are you referring to the banjo bolt orifice sizes.?
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Re: oil temp
« Reply #9 on: 28.06. 2022 00:52 »
Yes Col. Perhaps I'm confusing the BSA rocker oil feed with my Velo one... Something to do with the furthest outlet (from the supply) having a slightly larger outlet to encourage equal oil flow?

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Re: oil temp
« Reply #10 on: 28.06. 2022 09:28 »
The A7/A10 banjo bolts are the same inlet and exhaust.

The Gold Star uses an exhaust bolt with a slightly larger hole.

Some owners, me included, use the Gold Star exhaust bolt on the A10 exhaust.

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Re: oil temp
« Reply #11 on: 28.06. 2022 19:39 »
anyone have a rough idea of the running oil temp rocker oil feed return line.....
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