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New tool ! Demolition hammer
« on: 14.11. 2021 19:30 »
From this summer, clearing up the chaos on parts of my property after the massive rainfall catastrophy hit south-east France nov. 2020. Deposited 500 tons or so of stones and debris at my place. But no damages on house etc, it was further down the valley things went seriously wrong, houses, cars, bridges, roads, people swept away and disapearing.

Had to 'build' a new riverbed, and move ton after ton of stone. A relaxing holiday, building up muscles !
Useful to have lots of stone available, but the way it was delivered, and where it was deposited, not ideal :O)

& an example of the expansion stuff one pours into drilled holes, then wait for a few days...
Does wonders, picture of a block around 1 cubic m.

Also, discovered an alternative use for the hammer :O)

btw, the thing cost me 127 euros delivered to the doorstep, Ebay. 17 kilos of sturdy metal and motor. Did not manage to destroy it after literally hundreds of hours in use, now looks like it's 50 years old but still works perfectly. A few times in life one really feels getting value for money spent, this is absolutely exceptional.



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Re: New tool ! Demolition hammer
« Reply #1 on: 14.11. 2021 23:37 »
I thought the back was keeping you off the A10? This seems like back-breaking work. I like the idea of splitting wood with it. How about going full Michelangelo and doing some stone sculpting? It appears you have plenty of raw material.

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Re: New tool ! Demolition hammer
« Reply #2 on: 15.11. 2021 01:15 »
^^^ ok, Richard, here's the long short story... :O)
Have had some pretty good periods healthwise allowing much activity. Learned quite some tricks on how to lift, how to carry, what positions to avoid, when to pause etc etc, and to be wary of overethusiasm \ overestimation of abilities > stop and throw in the towel and call in someone to help.

Constant evaluation and planning. Took years, but now previously 'backbreaking' work actually can be strenghtening (of the support musculature). Sitting is actually backbreaking for my condition, very troublesome, this combined with the vertical compression jolts and shocks from sitting on a bike seat strongly affects any eventual motorcycling plans. Sold 3 bikes, + 2 cars whose seats wrecked my back. A10 kept, but in a sad state, still in pieces (but one day...maybe).

About the demolition hammer, of course seemed like machinery designed to demolish anyones health :O) and put them in hospital or worse quickly, but felt a strong urge to try to push some limits, not accepting any (automatic) preconceivement about not being able to do this or that. Quickly learned how to minimize back impact. Hammer mostly in an as much as possible vertical position makes it very manageable, any controlling then provided by muscles in the arms, the back will more or less just do a balancing job. Most heavy part is actually carrying it to the area of activity.

Time changes everything, things can go wrong quickly (again), or may continue doing positve stuff for a good while, no idea, just need those fine days of activity and creativity (...along with some doses of morphine a few days pr. month, good stuff when used properly) to keep the spirit alive and well.

Anyway. The demolition hammer did a superb job in the field ...and in the operator :O) Did definitely not kill me, on the contrary, strenghtened arms, legs and back, and induced a very welcome portion of confidence in myself, unveiled abilities.


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Re: New tool ! Demolition hammer
« Reply #3 on: 15.11. 2021 04:57 »
Hi Erling,
   After reading your story, I checked your age in your profile at 163. I believe it!!
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Re: New tool ! Demolition hammer
« Reply #4 on: 15.11. 2021 08:39 »
I shelled out and bought a proper rotary SDS hammer drill last summer after spending hours and multiple bits trying to drill my garage floor and just about making dents with my 'hammer' drill.

I could not believe the difference it made, fantastic!
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Re: New tool ! Demolition hammer
« Reply #5 on: 15.11. 2021 09:22 »
I shelled out and bought a proper rotary SDS hammer drill..
I bought one from Aldi with  rotary and percussive action. They are a very useful tool. Primarily, I needed a clutched drill that could do core drilling. After drilling a 100mm hole through the wall using my unclutched gut-buster drill my wrists were nearly disconnected!

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Re: New tool ! Demolition hammer
« Reply #6 on: 15.11. 2021 11:31 »
Gday Erling,
Good to hear you seem to be getting along ok.
What sort of expansion stuff are you using.
Up at our bush block we use black powder or smokeless powder to crack rocks.
It's probably a bit more exciting than your method.
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Re: New tool ! Demolition hammer
« Reply #7 on: 15.11. 2021 13:03 »
oh noooo Erling "things can go wrong quickly {again} Greybeard "strengthening your back muscles must help to support the spine" i have done my back again!! it is agony, i swung round in the shed with a big sectional box filled with nuts and bolts, as i was bending to throw it back under the bench my back muscles must have contracted or whatever to protect the spine-- so i have been told in the past. i am now out of action . this is now getting a more regular problem ever since a proper old fashioned big bag of cement set it off 30 years ago when i was putting it in the back of my van. even the cat knows i am in agony *help*

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Re: New tool ! Demolition hammer
« Reply #8 on: 15.11. 2021 13:30 »
Hi Erling,
   After reading your story, I checked your age in your profile at 163. I believe it!!
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Sometimes 16 (seeing some nice young women), sometimes 63 (wiser, safer, quite at peace), sometimes 163 (damn, feeling old and weak, life has evoparated)  *smile*

I shelled out and bought a proper rotary SDS hammer drill last summer after spending hours and multiple bits trying to drill my garage floor and just about making dents with my 'hammer' drill.

I could not believe the difference it made, fantastic!

Yep! Having these things available is great+++. They pay for themselves the 1st hour of use, not having to call in expensive workers.

My collection :O) rotary sds (30 euros!), rotary sds max (120 euros), & demolition (127 euros), all coming with chisels \ collection of quite good drills. Immense value for the money.


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Re: New tool ! Demolition hammer
« Reply #9 on: 15.11. 2021 13:43 »
i have done my back again!! it is agony, i swung round in the shed with a big sectional box filled with nuts and bolts, as i was bending to throw it back under the bench my back muscles must have contracted or whatever

Ahh... good luck getting better, get some good pills for (only!) a few days use, and stay in some movement, laying down can make things worse (just my experience).

As you write, it's not necessarily the heavy stuf\lifting that makes problems, but movement \ position. That's why I was able do lots of those demolition tasks, sometimes very heavy, but always keeping the position and zero quick movement. Some luck involved as well, I suppose.

The veterinary :O) I consult with my ailments once said, one does seldom destroy ones back by carrying bricks, stones and concrete, but often by picking up a pen from the floor...


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Re: New tool ! Demolition hammer
« Reply #10 on: 15.11. 2021 13:49 »
Gday Erling,
Good to hear you seem to be getting along ok.
What sort of expansion stuff are you using.
Up at our bush block we use black powder or smokeless powder to crack rocks.
It's probably a bit more exciting than your method.
cheers

Locally called Betonamite. Hve been looking at many youtube demonstrations of different explosives, and got black powder (am shooting revolvers).

With rocks, inexperience \ possible beginners stupidity regarding amount of powder etc, went the slow and safe (but expensive) way. But would have liked to learn about safe black powder use.


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Re: New tool ! Demolition hammer
« Reply #11 on: 16.11. 2021 21:32 »
Black powder  *eek* *eek*
Would land you in jail here in Ireland ( I wonder why  *????*)

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« Reply #12 on: 16.11. 2021 22:02 »
Interesting, Micro Blaster, small explosives cartridges hit by a firing pin system. Looks safe.
Have seen similar activity done by some (crazy) guy using blank revolver ammunition and hitting it with a long metal pin + hammer...while standing more or less on top of the stuff... *eek*




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Re: New tool ! Demolition hammer
« Reply #13 on: 17.11. 2021 11:19 »
Erling,
We make electric dets by breaking the glass of a torch bulb and soldering about 10m of twin cable to it.
Using silicon, we water proof a short piece of pipe containing the powder and the det.
Drop the pill down the hole in the rock and fill it with water.
Place a steel plate and a sandbag on top.
Stand back, short the wires across a 12v battery.
Only gives a dull thump but does the trick.
It works a lot better with the water for some reason?
puts a smile on your dial.     cheers

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Re: New tool ! Demolition hammer
« Reply #14 on: 17.11. 2021 11:45 »
... It works a lot better with the water for some reason?
Having worked on a car engine that destroyed itself by inhaling flood water I believe you.
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