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Re: Lower fork leg stripped thread.
« Reply #15 on: 30.07. 2021 12:25 »
     If your sliders are the "two studs one above the other and a Y bracket to the mudguard" like mine, they appear to have threaded buttons brazed to the leg, carrying the studs. In my case some fool has replace the stud (brazed in place) so the inner end is proud of the slider bore, and will catch the bottom stanchion bush on assembly. Good chance the stud can be drilled out, thread cleaned up and a new stud fitted Loctited in place. Impossible to tell if the good studs locate in the slider tube itself, and in production  these proud ends would be machined off  prior to a final finish to the bore. Needless to say whoever played with this one was heavy handed.

 As mentioned, welding carries the risk of distortion, and without checking, mine may already be not far from scrap.

 With regard to Helicoil repairs, the Helicoil Tap in the kit cuts a thread such that when the coiled wire insert is installed, the inner thread ends up ready to accept the chosen bolt or stud. The tap is the secret, along with consistent size and wire profile for the inserts.

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Re: Lower fork leg stripped thread.
« Reply #16 on: 30.07. 2021 12:52 »
Swarfy, yours are exactly like mine.  I think you're right about the brazing.  I have tried some judicious drilling, but have ceased because of the risk of breaching into the bore.  I've contacted an engineer mate of mine who says he'll look at it next week.  I reckon grinding all the old braze back to the slider and brazing on new studs (maybe with a nut to strengthen it a bit) is possibly the way forward.  I don't want to see the item scrapped as originals are getting harder to find (or so it seems).  I think I'll measure the distance between the centres as well.  Don't want to get new items on to find they don't fit.

As for the tapping of the spindle clamp hole, I'm pretty sure it was either 8.5 or 9mm drill.  The tap was pretty tight and all seemed to go well.  I think I'll get it helicoiled out and put in the correct size bolt to form a stud - reckon it'll be easier to assemble the front wheel with studs.  As for the spindle cap, I had to drill that out to accept the 10mm thread.  When I get it sorted, I'll find a suitable bush to reduce it down to its original size.  Jeez, the things you do for love, eh!!  See my next post on the bloody maggy.
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Re: Lower fork leg stripped thread.
« Reply #17 on: 31.07. 2021 21:38 »
Hi wortluck
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Not sure how you rethreaded the studs, surely there's not enough depth for it to be secure?
The studs for the Y stay were the original length just that the threads were worn/ stripped away
The core size is good to take a 7 x1mm thread

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Re: Lower fork leg stripped thread.
« Reply #18 on: 13.02. 2022 13:32 »
Could someone take me through how to rethread the lower fork leg clamp screw hole.  As you'll see earlier on the thread, I tapped out one hole to take a 10mm bolt, but want to return it to the original.  As it's bigger than the original (I think it's 7/16 20Tpi), how do I reduce the size of the hole.  I need to know if a helicoil of some sort may do the job, and whether this is possible given that I need to reduce from 10mm.  I'd need to know drill, tap and helicoil size if anyone can help.  Also, any ideas how to repair knackered threads, would this be drill and helicoil too??




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Re: Lower fork leg stripped thread.
« Reply #19 on: 13.02. 2022 15:40 »
I would cut the head off a 10mm bolt and thread the plain shaft of the bolt 5/16 x 26. You now have a stud, threaded 10mm one end , 5/16 bscy the other end. Screw the stud in and leave it in, and use a nut on it to hold the fork cap on.

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Re: Lower fork leg stripped thread.
« Reply #20 on: 13.02. 2022 15:46 »
That, my friend, is a damn good idea - thanks!
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Re: Lower fork leg stripped thread.
« Reply #21 on: 14.02. 2022 05:11 »
I reckon grinding all the old braze back to the slider and brazing on new studs (maybe with a nut to strengthen it a bit) is possibly the way forward.

If it's brazed you can normally just heat it and wire brush it off rather than grind
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Re: Lower fork leg stripped thread.
« Reply #22 on: 14.02. 2022 14:02 »
CB - sorry if this is a stupid question, but can I cut the 5/16 straight onto the plain shaft or will it need to be machined down a little??
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Re: Lower fork leg stripped thread.
« Reply #23 on: 14.02. 2022 18:32 »
wortluck as i understand cutting a 5/16th thread on your 10mm bolt you have to turn down the bolt where you want the thread to 5/16ths or maybe 5 thou under 5/16ths. then use a split die with the screw on the die holder tightened into the split to give a maximum opening of the die . put a small lead on the bolt to help start the thread and loosen the screw after the first cut to let the die cut a little deeper on the second run down. keep trying the nut on the thread. after this is done you have the larger hole in the clamp to deal with, making an insert for the clamp is ok if the bolt that screws into the fork leg is central all the way through the clamp but unless it is a top hat insert you will still need a larger od washer to keep things together. .. no doubt a real engineer will be along to put you in the right direction, meanwhile i will get my black&tan down my neck *beer*.... yes a crafty one in the house for a change *countdown*

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Re: Lower fork leg stripped thread.
« Reply #24 on: 14.02. 2022 19:05 »
Jeez Berger, I'm going to start my supping now.  *dunno2* *pull hair out* *countdown* *respect* Thanks for the info though.
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Re: Lower fork leg stripped thread.
« Reply #25 on: 14.02. 2022 22:09 »
5/16 is just under 8mm so you will need to skim the bolt before threading.