Mahindra BSA

[bsa-bill]

Affect or effect?

those two trip me up often, my old English Miss Joice usually had her eyes pointing to the heavens when she spoke to me, too many damn contradictions in English for my young brain to grasp I guess.
A bloke on FB informed me my post contained a triple negative, I had not a clue what he was talking about, I just replied that I hadn't been counting

[BSA_54A10]

I don't get the negativity. Why shouldn't a new BSA do what Triumph have done? I see many modern Triumphs on UK roads.

The proposal to ban petrol vehicles in the UK does not, (at the moment) include motorcycles.

The reports I have heard used the terms domestic vehicles which would include motorcycles but exclude trucks.
The only reason not to ban motorcycles would be if the police & ambos can;t find a suitable electric bike.

Because Triumph did it 20 years ago when people at least still remembered the name .
Because Triumphs are made in Tailand not in the UK where you either have to make a Rolls Royce class of bike ( priced accordingly ) or 10,000 a week to cover costs .
Enfield have been on the verge of going under to 20 of the last 30 years and they have the advantage of a large home market.

A modern BSA will have to be tier IV compliant so will need to be fuel injected so will idle at 1200 rpm and run like a sewing machine which is basically the same as every other motorcycle  and not what the few who do remember what the old BSA's were will be expecting.

BEcause the market for motor vehicles is declining particularly in the youth group because they "hang out" on their phones & not at the "Ace " on their motorcycle .

If you were going to revive a name from the past the one to pick would be Nimbus for no other reason than 3 billion people have read all the Harry Potter books and will at least recognise the the name Nimbus and associate it with a moving object .

Remember all the Whoo har about the "new Ariel " a few years back ?
and how many times have we seen the revival of Norton ?


Motorcycling is dieing weather we like it or not.

Much like cars, computer designs have lead to aerodynamically efficient, quiet cars   that really all look the same, all go the same .

[Rex]

As I previously mentioned, I don't see the reason Mahindra needs to make a petrol bike.
Richard L.

if they're intending that at least some of this supposed output is destined for the "Third World" then the petrol option is essential. A couple of jerry cans of petrol is a more reliable and a better method of powering your vehicle in those countries than either a hit-and-miss (or totally missing!) mains supply or a silly little portable wind-mill powered charger.
This is what makes a mockery of Johnson's prediction re Green power; the UK is one small country, and his statement (if it ever came to pass, and I seriously doubt that it would/will) would cause major upheaval in the UK economy and have next-to-no effect on the ever-increasing global use of IC engines.

[RDfella]

We are forgetting the UN's green agenda details, folks. The banning of coal, petrol etc only applies to western economies. According to their agenda (Paris Accord etc ) China, India and all 3rd world countries will be allowed to continue using fossil fuel (China intends to massively increase its usage) whilst the fines we pay for continuing to use these fuels will be payable to those countries. So there will always be a market for petrol / diesel vehicles. The UN has admitted their climate change agenda has nothing to do with the environment, but is about introducing socialism. Don't believe me? Look up what the IPCC's Ottomar Edenhofer said in Nov 2010.

[RichardL]

If you were going to revive a name from the past the one to pick would be Nimbus for no other reason than 3 billion people have read all the Harry Potter books and will at least recognise the the name Nimbus and associate it with a moving object .

I may be just be playin' now. OK, so the Mahindra electric bike should be called the Nimbus. Makes sense. Name recognition and also flies.

Richard L.

[RichardL]

As I previously mentioned, I don't see the reason Mahindra needs to make a petrol bike.
Richard L.

if they're intending that at least some of this supposed output is destined for the "Third World" then the petrol option is essential. A couple of jerry cans of petrol is a more reliable and a better method of powering your vehicle in those countries than either a hit-and-miss (or totally missing!) mains supply or a silly little portable wind-mill powered charger.
This is what makes a mockery of Johnson's prediction re Green power; the UK is one small country, and his statement (if it ever came to pass, and I seriously doubt that it would/will) would cause major upheaval in the UK economy and have next-to-no effect on the ever-increasing global use of IC engines.

If you get a chance to see "Long Way Up", you will see electric motorcycles getting charged-up in the some of the most remote regions of South America. To be sure, it was a big challenge.

Richard L.

[Rex]

But they were doing it to film and show as a programme.
Some subsistence farmer  (among the millions of others) in one of those extremely poor countries would just take the easier option of a couple of gallons of diesel.
Nimbus would be a poor choice of make too. The only 750 which I could nail the throttle for several miles it was so generally gutless. Truly a bike for the delivery postie.

[edboy]

i hope they dont make an e scooter.
that a fundamentally flawed and dangerous design due to the wheel size and weight distribution with a rider is being lorded as a 21st future saviour shows how thick these lefties are. anyone with an o level in physics will know why a 19" wheel will turn more safely due to gravity than a 3-4" one. unfortunately i failed my o level so cant explain why without resorting to google.
already one e scooter lady died in battersea under a lorry this year and they are not legal yet.

[Greybeard]

i hope they dont make an e scooter.
that a fundamentally flawed and dangerous design due to the wheel size and weight distribution with a rider is being lorded as a 21st future saviour shows how thick these lefties are. anyone with an o level in physics will know why a 19" wheel will turn more safely due to gravity than a 3-4" one. unfortunately i failed my o level so cant explain why without resorting to google.
already one e scooter lady died in battersea under a lorry this year and they are not legal yet.

Electric scooters, sound like a really bad idea to me. Apart from the issue of a powered vehicle being used on footways, (which is going to happen because, well who is going to prevent it?). Third party insurance will not be required, (how will a rider pay compensation to an injured third party?) Registration plates will not be required. Helmets will not be required.
I'm already seeing these things being raced through areas where children are around.

If dedicated traffic lanes could be set up for electric bicycles and scooters and riding elsewhere could be prevented then maybe these things would be OK.

[bikerbob]

I fully agree with what you say, my wife and I were were walking in a local country park some couple of weeks  and a youth on an electric scooter passed very close to us. I was amazed at the speed he was going, he came up behind us and we never heard him coming nor did he sound any warning if either of us had stepped to one side an accident would certainly have happened he was that close.

[Greybeard]

I fully agree with what you say, my wife and I were were walking in a local country park some couple of weeks  and a youth on an electric scooter passed very close to us. I was amazed at the speed he was going, he came up behind us and we never heard him coming nor did he sound any warning if either of us had stepped to one side an accident would certainly have happened he was that close.

Cyclists do this all the time. Having a bell, (other audible warning methods are available ) seems to be not the done thing. Fast moving bicycle's have killed people.
Cyclists are mostly younger people who must still have that totally self-centered attitude of the child. They just cannot empathise with other people. These are going to be the electric scooter riders.

[Butch (cb)]

Cyclists are mostly younger people who must still have that totally self-centered attitude of the child. They just cannot empathise with other people. These are going to be the electric scooter riders.

No GB. that's a generalisation too far for me.

[Greybeard]

Cyclists are mostly younger people who must still have that totally self-centered attitude of the child. They just cannot empathise with other people. These are going to be the electric scooter riders.

No GB. that's a generalisation too far for me.

I made four generalisations. Which one do you not like? 

By the way, I cycled 100 miles a week for many years before I retired.

[Angus]

just thought i would add this in case people were interested https://www.visordown.com/features/top-10s/legends-feature-top-ten-most-iconic-bsas-all-time something to live up to 
ps I cycle regularly into town and local country side (not in lycra), and am very aware that I need to ensure pedestrians know I am there, as far as I am concerned they always have the right of way.

[BSA_54A10]

just thought i would add this in case people were interested https://www.visordown.com/features/top-10s/legends-feature-top-ten-most-iconic-bsas-all-time something to live up to 
ps I cycle regularly into town and local country side (not in lycra), and am very aware that I need to ensure pedestrians know I am there, as far as I am concerned they always have the right of way.

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A bit of click bait form a moron who would not know a bantam from a bultaco.
Top 10 really ?
or was it the first 10 images he saw on Google
A bike that never went into production ( Bandit ) that was riddled with problems & unrideable in the form that it would have rolled of the production line,
Ask one of the few owners of them how mush work went into getting the bike to move under it's own power without  blowing up. Top 10 not in any ones books .
Probably run by Roy Bacon's grandson .
What a load of tosh .