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Offline hdawson

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How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« on: 15.02. 2019 01:40 »
A quick oil change on my modern Triumph today turned into a half day job. *doh*
Never have I found a spin on filter so tight so had to remove all the faring panels to access the area and used all the tools available
with no luck. As a last straw and increasingly nervous that I would mangle the filter further I modified my wrench tool and tech screwed it to the filter. Used my long handled torque wrench and hey- presto! *woo*
Having a quiet beer to celebrate before finishing the job.

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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #1 on: 15.02. 2019 05:25 »
They can't half get a grip sometimes! *smile*

More than once over the years I've had to hammer a big screwdriver straight through one to use as a lever.

Not ideal, but had to be done!
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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #2 on: 15.02. 2019 06:50 »
No room for that method unfortunately.
Just finished cleaning oil from every hand and power tool in the shed.
Needless to say the new filter has been just 'firmly' fitted ;)

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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #3 on: 15.02. 2019 09:21 »
Was that filter on there from new?

I also have had to use the screwdriver method.
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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #4 on: 15.02. 2019 09:33 »
I use a pretty aggressive long handled chain wrench on occasions - but you do need room to swing it.

The ones I do up tightest sit inside the sump on big block Guzzis. I like to feel sure they won't come off and float about in there.

Conversely, who else but the Mo Co would give you the option of buying one with a chrome plated finish?
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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #5 on: 15.02. 2019 11:18 »
Hi All,
If the filter O ring was not lubed when the last filter was fitted it will cause difficulty when it comes to removal

Chrome filter?
I think this is the same filter as HD?
You know how those guys like their bling *smile*

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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #6 on: 15.02. 2019 13:38 »
I think this is the same filter as HD?
You know how those guys like their bling *smile*
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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #7 on: 15.02. 2019 20:40 »
G'day Fellas.
With my rHonda it's nigh on impossible to get to the spin on with the fairing and ex-pipes till I found this type of tool.
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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #8 on: 15.02. 2019 21:00 »
G'day Fellas.
With my rHonda it's nigh on impossible to get to the spin on with the fairing and ex-pipes till I found this type of tool.
Cheers
Got to get one of those too!
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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #9 on: 16.02. 2019 04:03 »
Always do my own oils so only myself to blame and yes I do smear the seal with a little oil.
Even with Musky's tool I would not have had room to grasp the mongrel.
Some filters come with a central exposed nut to loosen but I reckon that would risk tearing off the whole  base if ultra tight like mine!

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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #10 on: 16.02. 2019 09:46 »
G'day Fellas.
With my rHonda it's nigh on impossible to get to the spin on with the fairing and ex-pipes till I found this type of tool.
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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #11 on: 17.02. 2019 06:11 »
I had the same problem with my Daytona 955i filter recently.
I found this no slip filter wrench that works perfectly for the job

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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #12 on: 17.02. 2019 09:06 »
Brilliant Worntorn.
I'll be purchasing one of those beasts  ASAP. *thanks*

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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #13 on: 20.02. 2019 15:02 »
Have a similar tool a so called "Filter Spider", works perfect!
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Re: How the simplest of jobs can be so hard!
« Reply #14 on: 24.02. 2019 17:24 »
been there a few times with customers bikes, at first I use standard socket with cups, when that fails, after it should, sometimes an air gun forwards and back sometimes jogs undone. failing that, strap wrench, chain strap then its a screwdriver .
If you want a nightmare Triumph are your foe. a couple of times rear wheel removal and chain adjustment are a nightmare on the Alloy swing arm models with the 50mm eccentric axle mount/chain adjuster units. theory is good, nip up and adjust with large hexagon drive in hexagon in adjuster. trouble is, as not done very often and no lube used on the mating parts, the water acts as a glue and oxidisation between both alloy parts gets glued together like calcium on taps. I was sat with a customer for two hours one day trying to remove and adjust his chain, a copper and hide hammer were used in the end along with emery cloth and grease on re assembly.
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