Hi Mates
Checked the spark, jumping 5mm, I though I'd check the brushes , to my surprise the bottom bush holder never had a brush on it, it was under the slip-ring ( manage to get it out w/- tweezers and a mirror ), it had never been on ( years ?) , no wear marks, it is very hard to get the bottom brush holder on as mine has a oil filter on the r/h side , my first attempt failed , wouldn't run on that cylinder, next time put a new holder / brush on that I had in stock, goes well well now,
thanks for all the replies and help ,
Barry
this all started with sooty exhaust , well they are still sooty, I'm leaving it for now