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Offline Peter Gee

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Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« on: 16.09. 2018 19:13 »
Bought some replica BSA GOLD STAR REAR MUDGUARD BRIDGE...42-6832 as I am fitting my rebuild A7SS with an alloy rear mudguard, non valenced. My seat is 100% original BSA base.

Seems to make the seat perch high and leave a large gap between the   underside of the guard and tyre, but when I look at various RGS type images, maybe thats wholly normal. Or maybe the pattern parts are incorrectly too far "humped"

I would have thought some folks would have made shorter customized brackets as IMO the BSA design looks curious with the nuge gap, given the rear shocks probably have 3 ins on movement, if that!

Much appreciate if someone measured   any non-valanced type mudguard gap they have, to check with mine.


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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #1 on: 16.09. 2018 22:14 »
Are you sure that is a swinging arm seat, Peter?
Looks very much like a plunger one.

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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #2 on: 16.09. 2018 22:57 »
Modern, low profile tyres on these bikes look wrong to me. Too gappy.
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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #3 on: 16.09. 2018 22:58 »
Are you sure that is a swinging arm seat, Peter?
Looks very much like a plunger one.
I agree.
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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #4 on: 17.09. 2018 06:27 »
Dear Greybeard and Trevinoz well it could be a plunger base, I'd have none to compare it to but when I use google images to look at various plungers, they have  IMO a different shape, much more "V" like. I asked my upholsterer to add a little bit more "hump" at the back of this one, which we custom ccovered in Kenya ( beautiful job).

My original valanced mudguards got stolen, but this seat base does fit the bracket  42-9196 that they had.

The tyres are Dunlop classic pattern and yes everything is "too gappy" but that is not a  result of the seat.... it might be a result of the pattern mudguard brackets I note to start the thread. Looking at RGS and Catalinas pix of Google Images, they are darned "gappy" too.

If anyone can comment on this or provide a under-guard to tire measurement, ratek around the rear of the seat or where the "U" brace is,  when on main stand..I'd be grateful

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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #5 on: 17.09. 2018 08:56 »
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If anyone can comment on this


Gold stars were used for scrambling so maybe the rear mudguard reflected this
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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #6 on: 17.09. 2018 08:57 »
My 58 A10 SA has about 5 in. gap.

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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #7 on: 17.09. 2018 09:26 »
A picture I grabbed to show typical seats
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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #8 on: 17.09. 2018 11:43 »
Compared to the attached photo, one would have to say not a plunger seat. I think the excess uptilt confuses what we expect to see in an early swingarm seat.

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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #9 on: 17.09. 2018 16:56 »
Yes I added more padding..I asked my upholsterer to do it.

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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #10 on: 17.09. 2018 19:16 »
The shock absorbers look long - may be the make with long chrome shrouds make them look long - but are they the correct length 12.9 inches fully extended between centres?

Could we see a photo with seat removed?

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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #11 on: 17.09. 2018 22:16 »
If I compare with mine the mudguard brackets are at the same position to the wheel as yours so I don't think you're far off.
Looking from the side, the top of the rim and about 1/2" of tyre can be seen below the bracket.
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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #12 on: 18.09. 2018 06:13 »
Hi Julian, I will check that on the shocks..I did think of it since the BSA SA and silentblocs does allow  is stopped by the shock length.

Got them from a reasonable shop...and could only have mixed them up with ones for a Triumph T100 I am building...but those would have been 11.9" max travel..even shorter.

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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #13 on: 18.09. 2018 08:40 »
Gold Star catalogue illustration.

But the view in the Rocket Road test in previous post is different!

https://www.a7a10.net/forum/index.php?topic=11695.0

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Re: Rear mudguard clearence ? (with photo)
« Reply #14 on: 18.09. 2018 12:23 »
Gold Star catalogue illustration.

Don't you just love those fifties brochures with drawn images!
Photoshop when it wasn't even invented.  *smile*
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