Ignition switch and charge light on LS

[Greybeard]

The special charging device discussed is connected between a live feed and earth.

[Greybeard]

Instead of connecting the lamp to earth as shown, which will not indicate whether the battery is being charged but only that there is life in the battery.
Connect it to "D" instead as has been suggested previously.
This way the lamp will be illuminated when the generator is not charging and will be out when it is. Just like any conventional system.

TrevinOz, pease will you read up about the special device we've been discussing.

[RoyC]

Got my LED.
Fitting instructions.
For 'Ignition on' operation, connect Black to negative supply, and Red to switched feed from an ignition switch.

Can someone put me clear as to how this will fit into my diagram.

[RoyC]

Is this what they mean ?

[Greybeard]

Sorry RoyC, I'm a bit busy to read this at the moment. I'll get back to you as soon as I can. As a quick test just wire the LED device anywhere between a live wire and earth. The seller says you cannot bugger it up by reverse connecting it.

[Greybeard]

Got my LED.
Fitting instructions.
For 'Ignition on' operation, connect Black to negative supply, and Red to switched feed from an ignition switch.

Can someone put me clear as to how this will fit into my diagram.

Roy, if you are still struggling.

First off, have you had a play with the LED device to prove that it works? Just holding its wires across the battery live and the frame should give it power. May need to reverse the connections to suit your bikes polarity.

Do you have a way of checking continuity; such as a multimeter or a battery and bulb, (better yet is a buzzer or bell)? First identify the switch contacts; there should be 2 pairs. With the switch turned 'Off', (key out I presume) you should see one pair of contacts are shorted by the switch. Turn the key and those contacts should show open circuit. These contacts are for the mag earth so run a cable to suit that circuit. The other pair of contacts should be open circuit when the switch is at the 'Off' position and shorted when the switch is turned to 'On' position; they are the contacts for the charge indicator.

Using a switch for the mag is more secure than it used to be when thieves would know that they only had to pop the end cap off the mag to overcome the security switch. However, don't trust the switch too much.

[RoyC]

Connected the LED across + - on my spare battery, light works OK.
Just waiting for my ignition switch now.
If the switch works like I hope, my diagram should work.
I will keep you informed on the progress.

[Greybeard]

Connected the LED across + - on my spare battery, light works OK.
Just waiting for my ignition switch now.
If the switch works like I hope, my diagram should work.
I will keep you informed on the progress.

Roy, my first diagram applies as well. I didn't realise at first that I'd made a mistake in the switching so then considered using a relay. Notice that I showed 4 contacts; ie. two pairs. I didn't know at the time that you can get a switch that turns one set of contacts off and another set on at the same time. If I can help any more just shout. 

I was hoping you'd temporarily connect the LED device to your bike to see that it does what it's supposed to do, ie. change colour as the revs change.

[RoyC]

Connected the LED across + - on my spare battery, light works OK.
Just waiting for my ignition switch now.
If the switch works like I hope, my diagram should work.
I will keep you informed on the progress.

I was hoping you'd temporarily connect the LED device to your bike to see that it does what it's supposed to do, ie. change colour as the revs change.

Not yet.
I've been fitting an extended tickler to keep my finger dry.

[Greybeard]

Connected the LED across + - on my spare battery, light works OK.
Just waiting for my ignition switch now.
If the switch works like I hope, my diagram should work.
I will keep you informed on the progress.

I was hoping you'd temporarily connect the LED device to your bike to see that it does what it's supposed to do, ie. change colour as the revs change.

Not yet.
I've been fitting an extended tickler to keep my finger dry.

Off topic Roy 

[Greybeard]

How are the keyed switch projects going?

[RoyC]

How are the keyed switch projects going?

Just finished it today.
I will take some pictures to show you.
The cut out works great when the key is turned off, when the key is turned on the light comes on, like an ignition light to let me know it is ready to kick it over. 

A couple of bad pics of the LED and switch brackets I made (all stainless).

[Greybeard]

How are the keyed switch projects going?

Just finished it today.
I will take some pictures to show you.
The cut out works great when the key is turned off, when the key is turned on the light comes on, like an ignition light to let me know it is ready to kick it over. 

A couple of bad pics of the LED and switch brackets I made (all stainless).

Looks fantastic. I hope the charging indicator does what it is supposed to do, i.e. changes through three colours.

[RoyC]

It's green at the moment.
The battery is fully charged so I don't think it will show any other colour until the battery has discharged a little.

[Greybeard]

It's green at the moment.
The battery is fully charged so I don't think it will show any other colour until the battery has discharged a little.

Mine shows a discharge, (red) when turned on, (via the speedo bulb), amber when the engine is running, red when the headlamp is turned on, and moves to green when the revs rise. The thing mirrors what the ammeter is doing.