Ignition switch and charge light on LS

[duTch]

 

Is this so even with a fully charged 55ah battery and led headlight bulb?

 Quick Logic test suggests I'd have to say even more so...

** But my logic is not always in synch

[RoyC]

LED has arrived, just waiting to know what this switch is, and a new diagram from GB 
I can wire things together, but, I know nout about components or wire gauges.

[Greybeard]

LED has arrived, just waiting to know what this switch is, and a new diagram from GB 

I've had a quick look at RS but I'm not sure about the correct description. I've asked Rudi to post a link to the one he got. The problem with buying stuff from China or Hong Kong is the shipping time. I'm sure RS or Farnell will have one, albeit more expensive.

I think my first diagram will apply but you will need to attach the contacts to suit, ie. NC. for the mag earth and NO. for the LED device. This means that when the switch is in the 'Off' position the NC. contacts will be earthing the mag and the NO. contacts will disconnect the LED gizmo. Obviously, when the switch is 'On' the reverse will apply.

[Greybeard]

...I know nout about components or wire gauges.

The wire guage is not very important here. The LED will hardly draw any current, likewise the mag earth.

[Rookie_V#60]

Sorry for the delay had first to change on eBay.com uk and au be sure you get it:

And yes you has to be patient, shipping is free but need 2-3 weeks until you have it.

Example for the Switch:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universal-Motorcycle-Ignition-Switch-Key-For-Honda-Yamaha-Kawasaki-Suzuki-KTM/282642852704?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D51382%26meid%3D29987319dff24bcb996947d75a90fbdc%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D391809014334%26itm%3D282642852704&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A5a5f99cb-4d2a-11e8-930d-74dbd180e981%7Cparentrq%3A1b3ed8081630a688cee08089ffff64f8%7Ciid%3A1

and the LED's:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8mm-6V-12V-24V-220V-LED-Wasserdicht-Leuchtmelder-Kontrollleuchte-Signalleuchte/391809014334?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D51382%26meid%3D6b8fd19e66344153a9bb88ff96bc33b5%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D282642852704%26itm%3D391809014334&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A01fe5eb5-4d2b-11e8-821d-74dbd180b553%7Cparentrq%3A1b4322741630ab6bacfad92fffff5abe%7Ciid%3A1

Cheers Rudy

[RoyC]

Like this ?  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Motorcycle-Ignition-Key-Switch-For-Honda-Yamaha-Kawasaki-Suzuki-KTM/253412848956?epid=933677177&hash=item3b0095353c:g:V7MAAOSwSwVaWelR     

Does this do away with the need for a relay ?

[Rookie_V#60]

Exactly the same!
You need no relay the current to mag and LED is very low.
You can easyly check via ohmmeter which of the wire pairs are the opener and the closer.

Rudy

[RoyC]

Exactly the same!
You need no relay the current to mag and LED is very low.
You can easyly check via ohmmeter which of the wire pairs are the opener and the closer.

Rudy

Thanks Rudy, I will order that switch.
I know I'me thick when it comes to electrics, but I can't figure out how to work GB's circuit without the relay. As stated before, I can't design a circuit.

[RoyC]

Does this make sense and would it work ?

[Rookie_V#60]

Hi Roy,
take GB's diagram from replay #26 .
Cheers Rudy

P.S. Sorry you was quicker than I, yes your circut  ( + earth) works!

[RoyC]

Hi Roy,
P.S. Sorry you was quicker than I, yes your circut  ( + earth) works!

Great.
A big thanks for all your help.

[Greybeard]

I've been out all day, (my wifes birthday).
Roy, please check that the switch you buy has both NC. contacts and NO. contacts. This means that when the switch is off one pair of contacts will be open while the other pair will be closed.

[Greybeard]

Does this make sense and would it work ?

Your diagram is ok. But you need to make sure that the switch does what I described, ie., one circuit closed while the other circuit is open

[trevinoz]

Instead of connecting the lamp to earth as shown, which will not indicate whether the battery is being charged but only that there is life in the battery.
Connect it to "D" instead as has been suggested previously.
This way the lamp will be illuminated when the generator is not charging and will be out when it is. Just like any conventional system.

[RoyC]

I've been out all day, (my wifes birthday).
Roy, please check that the switch you buy has both NC. contacts and NO. contacts. This means that when the switch is off one pair of contacts will be open while the other pair will be closed.

This is the one I've ordered  -  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Motorcycle-Ignition-Key-Switch-For-Honda-Yamaha-Kawasaki-Suzuki-KTM/253412848956?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649