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Offline Guy Wilson

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Villiers spares
« on: 17.09. 2015 06:56 »
Does anyone, preferably in Europe, East or Southern Africa have any Villiers 123cc 3 speed engine spares? A complete engine with carb would great, but anything considered.  Its for James ML circa 1945/6
I need a few cycle arts as well, so whatever you may have, could be interesting to me!
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Guy
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Re: Villiers spares
« Reply #1 on: 20.09. 2015 11:08 »
I've got a small Villiers motor kicking around at home - no clue what it is. Can you give me some clues on how we can tell if it would meet your requirements?
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Re: Villiers spares
« Reply #2 on: 20.09. 2015 14:32 »
Hi,
The villiers motor that Guy is after is a '9D'
This motor was fitted to a lot of James motor cycles during the war and continued until about 1948.
The motor has an alloy twin port head and iron barrel.
Bore is 50mm, stroke is 62mm. It delivered about 3.5hp with a compression ratio of 6.5:1.
Engine number is prefixed with 'AAA' and has an 'A' suffix.  (AAA.......A)
It has a hand change gear shift.
It is cute as a button but would not pull the skin off a custard.
The ML was the first civilian model after the war and is similar to the military version.
All together about 26000 were made.
When they wore out, they were thrown away by the thousands.
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Re: Villiers spares
« Reply #3 on: 20.09. 2015 17:18 »
I think mine was one the ones that was thrown away
Here's a picture of what I'm looking for engine wise. Specifically I'm missing the gearbox outer casing, kickstart and the carburettor.

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Re: Villiers spares
« Reply #4 on: 21.09. 2015 05:44 »
I think mine is more 'modern' than that. I'll check engine numbers when I'm back in the UK. Probly around next weekend.
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Re: Villiers spares
« Reply #5 on: 21.09. 2015 06:30 »
Thank you. I think they used the engines in Norman lightwaves as well. I have a Uk address near Cambridge if it is a match,
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Re: Villiers spares
« Reply #6 on: 21.09. 2015 07:48 »
Wilco. I'm pretty sure mine is not a match, but I'm only down the road and could drop it in if it were.
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Re: Villiers spares
« Reply #7 on: 21.09. 2015 12:08 »
Here is a picture of my first proper motorcycle. Not actually my one but the same thing.
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Re: Villiers spares
« Reply #8 on: 21.09. 2015 12:20 »
That looks positively modern compared to mine...
Guy