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Wanted A10 Frame
« on: 19.11. 2024 10:49 »
Looking for A10 s/arm frame with v5 please.
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Re: Wanted A10 Frame
« Reply #1 on: 19.11. 2024 12:12 »
'with V5' is the tricky bit!

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Re: Wanted A10 Frame
« Reply #2 on: 19.11. 2024 12:41 »
Yes I was thinking that. Why do you need the V5?  I recently bought a Matchless basket case (more accuracy the parts of a motorcycle rested together to look like one in a photo *smile*) with no V5 or reg. The absolute key was receipts for the purchase, after that its fairly straight forward to register.  DVLA take about 3 months then a new V5 arrives.  In my case they found the original reg from the frame number which was cheaper as its a replacement not a re-reg. You need to be in the BSAOC to get a date cert as they hold the records (I used the Jampot club).
You don't even need to MOT it, just put it together, take photos and get the V5, when that arrives you SORN it then when its insured you tax it for free on-line as its historic and MOT exempt.
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Re: Wanted A10 Frame
« Reply #3 on: 19.11. 2024 13:14 »
If you make it non-original you'll have problems with the club machine dating letter as many will only say it's a collection of parts. Maybe the OP wants to build a special of some sort and knows that he'll fall foul of this issue?

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Re: Wanted A10 Frame
« Reply #4 on: 19.11. 2024 13:40 »
Not sure. My Matchless is a bitsa - built as a trail bike with an AJS engine.  The Jampot dating officer (really helpful) searched the AJS/Matchless archives and provided dating info for the engine and frame since while they were both 1953, the bike did not leave Plumstead with an AJS engine in a Matchless frame.
The DVLA took this info, plus photos and my explanation and evidence of purchase and searched their database and found the original registration for the frame as this takes precedence.  They were not in anyway interested in how the bike looked, only that it was a bike not a basket. Only complete vehicles can be registered, not piles of parts. At the time of registration it had no wiring.
Its important to maintain historic status so there must be "no major modifications" but for an old bike this would mean the same suspension, an in-period engine of a similar type and fuel, similar style. For cars points are allocated so its still allowable for several major changes. For a bike i can't  envisage what it would take to loose the historic status.  Some safety improvements are allowed so better brakes usually don't count as a mod.
The bike need only be within the range of the "specials" currently on their original registrations, that leaves a pretty wide choice.  So if it has an alloy tank, rear-sets, single seat etc this would only make it like (say) 500 other BSA's on the road that still retain their registrations and historic status.  To set a higher bar would be unreasonable and unenforceable.
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Re: Wanted A10 Frame
« Reply #5 on: 19.11. 2024 15:29 »
Comments much appreciated - I just thought it would be much simpler to build the special I have in mind with a valid V5.
I'm happy to keep searching and asking.
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Re: Wanted A10 Frame
« Reply #6 on: 19.11. 2024 15:49 »
I think it will come down to times scale - its takes at least 3 months longer to get a registration, and cost - I don't know the market premium for a V5.  What I will advise is check frame numbers. Last year I backed out of a purchase of an A10 rolling frame and engine with a V5 when the seller told me he forgot to mention there was no frame number. He was surprised I cancelled as he thought it was a "small matter".  A V5 and a frame that don't match is no better (and more expensive) than a frame with a number and no V5.
With prices as they are a non-runner with a V5 could get you what you want and some parts to sell on.
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