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« on: 19.12. 2020 10:16 »
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« Reply #1 on: 19.12. 2020 17:37 »
Waste of a good Jaguar engine. Clearly not the Michigan madman's V8.
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« Reply #2 on: 20.12. 2020 02:43 »
I saw that and thought it might be a Jag engine, but I'm no expert. Searched "motorcycle with Jaguar engine" and it came up instantly. I suppose RD knew it off the bat.

https://drivetribe.com/p/the-jaguar-xk-motorcycle-CdtftyI5STy_XJN9KBlEdQ?iid=G8Ji9v3gQJC0IeqJ6ggz7w

Based on other bikes in the photo and the film crew, I assumed it's Bonneville.

As for a waste of a Jag engine, I used to have a '69 420G, right-hand-drive, into which I dropped a Chevy 350. I never owned the Jag engine.

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Re: What the actual f...
« Reply #3 on: 20.12. 2020 04:21 »
Luv the fuel tank!
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« Reply #4 on: 20.12. 2020 11:37 »
"I suppose RD knew it off the bat."
Spot on. Worked on many over the years and currently have one in a classic car. Can't mistake those cam covers and timing chest. Aston Martin was slightly similar, but they never polished their covers and the front is different as well.
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« Reply #5 on: 20.12. 2020 11:50 »
With you all the way on that RD.  I reckon the earlier camboxes are miles nicer than the later ridged ones in black, 'n all. But haven't got any of eirher sort any more, just bikes these days plus a prewar car I haven't used in ages. I prefer playing with bike people, to put it bluntly.
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« Reply #6 on: 20.12. 2020 18:47 »
RD,

Not sure one can say, "a waste of a Jag engine." He might have put it back in the car, or maybe it was saved it from a scapper. Otherwise, maybe you mean poor weight-to-horsepower ratio for use at Bonnevile (or wherever that is).

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« Reply #7 on: 20.12. 2020 19:51 »
When I enlarged the picture for a better view, the caption "A Distinguished Gentleman....." was displayed.

 From the style of the eye stickers it has to be early 1960's.

My caption would be along the lines of "First recorded pairing of Jaguar XK120 Engine with Norman Nippy Frame"

Urban myth is that the Jag engine was based on a line of 6 Norton Singles.....

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« Reply #8 on: 20.12. 2020 20:46 »
Luv the fuel tank!

Looking again at the size of the fuel tank, this must be a drag race, not Bonneville.

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« Reply #9 on: 20.12. 2020 21:47 »

Urban myth is that the Jag engine was based on a line of 6 Norton Singles.....

Swarfy

Reality being a dose of Harry Weslake atop a development of the old Standard 20 bottom end, with a leavening of Hassan, Heynes and Sir William Lyons (for the bling factor). Goal being 160bhp as a minimum, from as close to 3 litres as possible - a baseline equivalent to the maximum obtainable from the old SS pushrod engines, with a lot more torque.
Carpenters' 'thick pencils' may have been used to draw the performance graphs - but they got there or thereabouts, and created an engine that stayed in production for 50 years. Also seen in Dennis fire engines, some military applications, and I believe in some boats. Fantastic bit of design in my view, truly iconic, and an absolute joy to take to bits and put together.

Without a decent radiator, or even ANY radiator, must have been for the drag strip only in a bike context I reckon. Hard enopugh to keep them cool in cars even with best part of 30 pints of water aboard sometimes!

They used also to say the Vanwall was 4 Manx Nortons in a line  . . .
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