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Longstroke model designation?
« on: 18.01. 2013 06:20 »

 Quick question- just curious,
   Probably blaringly obvious, but what model designation name(s)  did the Longstrokes have ??

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Re: Longstroke model designation?
« Reply #1 on: 18.01. 2013 06:29 »
As far as I know they didnt have a specific model name. In 49' and 50' they made the Star Twins but the normal A7's were just that.

I've attached a scan from the 48' brochure and you will see they are just called the A7.

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Re: Longstroke model designation?
« Reply #2 on: 21.02. 2013 14:02 »
"Brian" ,

Would I be correct in thinking virtually all the original Longstroke "Star Twin"s were exported to Australia & New Zealand ?
I have never seen another one other than My Own in the U.K.

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Re: Longstroke model designation?
« Reply #3 on: 21.02. 2013 21:37 »
I dont know what markets they were supplied to but I would think they went world wide. There are plenty in the UK and AUS but I'm not sure how well they sold in the USA.

Only a guess but when they were being sold in 49' the word was probably out that a new 650cc was on the way and by 50' the A10 was available and as the USA market seemed to prefer large capacity bikes I would think that would have killed sales of the Star Twin.

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Re: Longstroke model designation?
« Reply #4 on: 22.02. 2013 05:21 »
love them longstrokes
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Re: Longstroke model designation?
« Reply #5 on: 23.02. 2013 16:19 »


 Hey Guys, thanks for the input, I've been off-tap for a bit been side-tracked (kind'v).
 
  So far as I can determine, the earlier longstrokes were simply called 'A7 Vertical Twins'.......?...., until the Star twin came along?
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Re: Longstroke model designation?
« Reply #6 on: 23.03. 2013 00:55 »
In response to Stephen fosters query about where most long stroke A7s were originally sold, I live in Southern California and all of the long stroke A7s I have stumbled into have been rigid frame '47 and 48 models. I've never seen a plunger frame long stroke in person and I've never seen any of the bolt together rigid A7/A10 frames or bikes with this frame for sale in the US that were not recent imports from the UK.  Many of the early A7 frames I've seen have very low/early VIN numbers too so it's possible that many of them were exported to the US.   

I have by no means seen a lot of early long stroke A7s but I would guess that I've seen maybe 15 of them in the last 25 years.

Those who are familiar with the early BSA twins will know that the '47-48 frame was a one piece design while the later plunger model frame had a bolt on rear section and the rigid from the plunger era bolted together just as the plunger frame did.

Just my own two cents.......
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Re: Longstroke model designation?
« Reply #7 on: 30.03. 2013 04:46 »
I had the remains of a 1949 ZA7S plunger frame, originally sold in Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada. It was given to me by the original owner about 1987. No engine, tank or rear wheel, but most all of it was still there.  The owner still had a 1953 A10 Golden Flash he bought to replace it when the Star Twin was stolen and wrecked. Apperently, thieves tried to jump the Star Twin over some construction and crashed it. The frame had a bent front section.Unfortunately, I left it at a friend's house after I stripped it down, and his mother's new boyfriend cleared out the shed of his dad's old stuff (or so he thought) and away went the frame to the dump.
Fortunately, I still have all the other bits including the front end and fenders that I am using on my 1948 A7.
This picture shows the "gang" heading out on a run, the owner of the Star Twin was Fred at the far right, in the leather Jerkin. He was a Dispatch Rider Instructor during WW2 , the Star Twin is behind the guy waving (and obscuring the tank badge!!).
1948 A7- the perpetual 25 year restoration.  1954 A10 , 1957 Ariel Huntmaster