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Carb setup advise - Newbie question
« on: 20.06. 2011 09:34 »
I have just taken over looking after my dads A7, it has had very little use in the last 12 years although it has been kept on the road. I am trying to get the carb set up and need a bit of advice.

  • It is a 1959 A7SS.
    Completely standard apart from some recently fitted Spitfire Scrambler Pipes, SRM bottom end and SRM valve seat work - The pipes have not noticeably affected the carburation.
    New Monobloc Carb with standard jetting was fitted 34/4 years ago (about 200 miles!!!!!)
    Carb has been stripped and cleaned.
    Just between 1/8 and 1/4 the bike runs rough and then clears as the throttle is opened and the revs rise.
    I cleaned the plugs, went for a 10 mile ride and then checked them (photo attached)

Any advice gratefully received



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1970 Yamaha AT1B
1976ish Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

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Re: Carb setup advise - Newbie question
« Reply #1 on: 20.06. 2011 10:38 »
G'day gripperod,
                      sorry I don't know much about monoblocks but 1/8 to 1/4 is mainly controlled by the slide cutaway.
Could be an air leak, check by spraying some WD around the flange, if revs drop thats the problem.
Do a plug chop at the problem throttle opening. Google "plug chop"
Plugs look a bit lean to me (air leak)
Cheers
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Re: Carb setup advise - Newbie question
« Reply #2 on: 20.06. 2011 19:19 »
If you have a choke fitted, try partially closing it to see if that improves it?

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Re: Carb setup advise - Newbie question
« Reply #3 on: 20.06. 2011 21:51 »
Muskrat,

I am super impressed, you somehow managed to diagnose the problem from a mere 10631.661 miles away! (Approx). I squirted some WD as you suggested and I thought there was a minor difference so (As a temporary bodge honestly....) I ran some silicone round the edges of the Carb gaskets left to cure for a while and then took it for a test ride. Whilst the  overall fuelling still isnt quite right, the flat spot at 1/8-1/4 throttle has gone!!!!!! I would NEVER have thought about an air leak.

So this weekend the carb is coming off for a careful inspection and refit.

Any tricks of the trade required for fitting a carb and ensuring no leaks?

Thanks again

bp
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Re: Carb setup advise - Newbie question
« Reply #4 on: 20.06. 2011 22:16 »
You can't ride an old bike and not suspect inlet air leaks!

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Re: Carb setup advise - Newbie question
« Reply #5 on: 20.06. 2011 22:43 »
Ah well, older and just a little bit wiser!  *smile*
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Re: Carb setup advise - Newbie question
« Reply #6 on: 20.06. 2011 23:32 »
You can't ride an old bike and not suspect... magneto\carb\valve\clutch\braking\gearbox\oil leak\bearing\charging problems lol. The pleasure is in fixing them, and then ride the bike.
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Re: Carb setup advise - Newbie question
« Reply #7 on: 21.06. 2011 08:01 »
G'day again,
                glad to help. A quick fix is to smear silicon around the joint and start the motor straight away for a minute, then let it cool. The silicon will be drawn into the gap and set. I can still see the remnants on the '51 after a few years so it still works.
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