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Lucas K2F manual advance help wanted
« on: 12.08. 2021 15:50 »
Hello, please can anyone kindly offer any advice on where I can buy a refurbished manual advance magneto in the UK for my A10 that I'm trying to restore? I'm a bit stuck as I've got the auto advance one fitted that came with the bike. But it's never been serviced and inconcistently firing with a white spark, so it won't start for love nor money after starting once for 5mins after 50 years not running . Reason for manual advance is that I've now the case and a 2:1 angled drive  to fit a crono revcounter. So makes no sense to refurb the auto one and told they are different anyway.

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Re: Lucas K2F manual advance help wanted
« Reply #1 on: 12.08. 2021 18:28 »
Does Priory Magnetos not have one? His website says he's not working at the moment but I'm sure I read recently that someone had dealt with him. Try emailing him, he's usually the go to guy for anything sparks related.
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Re: Lucas K2F manual advance help wanted
« Reply #2 on: 13.08. 2021 06:58 »
Hello, thanks for the advice.

It may be wise to have a re- think and get the auto one I have fixed, while I look out for what I need. At least I could then get the bike running and registered. I will see if Priory can help down that avenue, if a complete manual one isn't available from him.
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Re: Lucas K2F manual advance help wanted
« Reply #3 on: 13.08. 2021 08:25 »
  Dave.   Looks to have some life, so before you condemn the original magneto, a strip down and a good  clean could be all it needs. To use Zen on it, it doesn't work properly now, so if you are unsuccessful, nothing has been lost. Stuck or well worn brushes, dirty slip ring and dirty, sticking points are the first checks. Earth brush adjacent to the nameplate is often worn down, and is an easy but often overlooked first check. The bearings are insulated from the body and without this brush there is no easy earth return to the armature.

  BSA Service Sheet 801  (Find in the Forum Literature Section) shows how to do basic maintenance, dismantle and do electrical checks.
 To remove the armature, first remove that earth brush  and the spark gap safety screws. These otherwise foul on the armature and slip ring as the armature is removed. A clean out of the body (expect to find carbon, dirt, oil) and fresh grease on the bearings should get something good enough to start the bike. Failing condensers will often work cold, then give up as they warm up. Replace any spacer shims as found to retain original bearing running clearance, the unit uses cup and cone bearings which will simply pull apart.

 Priory Magnetos and Brightspark Magnetos have very useful websites and I would recommend time spent here. Brightspark have a library of old Lucas Part Lists, and you can identify the correct Lucas Magneto Model Variant for your bike. They also market an effective
 well proven and cost effective replacement for a failed condenser.

 Manual and auto maggys share the same basic body casting and electrical internals. The difference is in the camhousing and the attachment of it to the body...just a difference in the number of tapped holes.

 If searching for a replacement magneto, "Proper BSA Ones" have a flat machined on the base to clear the cylinder barrel flange. Without the flat, other bodies fit, but it's a bit of a squeeze.

 Swarfy.

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Re: Lucas K2F manual advance help wanted
« Reply #4 on: 13.08. 2021 09:34 »
A good strip and clean, clean check and repack bearings, renew brushes if required then fit an Easi-cap to it.
A quick easy and cheap overhaul before shelling out for a pro-rebuild,  which may or may not be required.

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Re: Lucas K2F manual advance help wanted
« Reply #5 on: 13.08. 2021 10:51 »
Hello Guys,

Thanks again for the advice. I've checked my mag and it does have the flat on the casing. I'm going to have a go at stripping it down and seeing if it's anything obvious, as you are right Swarfy and nothing lost.

Ive also spoken to Andrew at Priory, who is very kindly helping me out with the replacement I need so  I can fit the rev counter. Another problem solved thanks to you wounderfull people offering great advice.
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