thanks for replying everyone , that will give me a starting point to fit the mudguards, I don't mind welding up holes and re drilling , these have to be dollied up and reshaped they are so rough , I purchased some from india a few years ago for a plunger and they were ok not perfect I didn't expect them to be , but they were made by rolling machine I am sure , but these are made by hand probably by a 1st year learner. I have just purchased a chrome and black tank I haven't fitted it yet but it measures up ok on the anchor points and the centre bolt , the fuel filler is 1/2" forward according to my old tank but I am hoping it will go strait on when the time comes thanks again all tw ps I paid £200 for the tank including postage