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Photo shows 2 original Birmingham, UK, Lucas pickup brush boxes, slight differences between the 2 boxes, one marked 12 64. These boxes are about 1 inch x 1 inch x 1 1/4 inch and originally contained 10 brushes. There were different style packaging used over the years.
You're very lucky to have acquired these. I was equally lucky when I tripped over a car restoration website where they had some original brushes for sale. I don't think they realised that they were sitting on 'gold' as they were about £2.50 a box! I bought ten boxes. Next week they'd trebled in price on their website!
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Wanted & For Sale / Paddock roller starter wanted
« Last post by Topdad on 27.03. 2025 14:30 »
Good afternoon everybody, I'm looking for a bit of help. I'm pretty desperant to get out on my A10 after a lay of of to long but my left leg is to weak  to bring out of hibernation !so just hoping someone on here may have one which they'd sell ? have to be Uk based but any help gratefully rec'd ,thanks in anticipation Bob 
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Lucas, Ignition, Charging, Electrical / Re: Pick-up brushes (again)
« Last post by BSA500 on 27.03. 2025 13:14 »
All good stuff about which are good brushes etc. I dont think over the many years I've owned the A7 I have actually worn out a set of pick up brushes. Lost them, broken them by being heavy handed or replaced them because they were covered in oil when mag oil seal failed.
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Lucas, Ignition, Charging, Electrical / Re: Pick-up brushes (again)
« Last post by JulianS on 27.03. 2025 10:03 »
Photo shows 2 original Birmingham, UK, Lucas pickup brush boxes, slight differences between the 2 boxes, one marked 12 64. These boxes are about 1 inch x 1 inch x 1 1/4 inch and originally contained 10 brushes. There were different style packaging used over the years.
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Lucas, Ignition, Charging, Electrical / Re: Pick-up brushes (again)
« Last post by groily on 27.03. 2025 09:46 »
An Interesting Q TT.

I think I'll amuse myself with an experiment when I get A Round Tuit.

I have amused myself this morning. Little things and little minds.
Result of a brief play showed equivalent performance of air gap and carbon brush on a K2F, in the sense that sparks up to 6mm were available in line with the Lucas test specs. Fat sparks every time at the flick of a wrist too.

A slightly fiddly job to try to get a, say, 2-3 thou gap between not-a-brush and slipring using a standard Bob Culver-quality pick-up and a light interference fit of a brass rod with shiny nose, at 5.13mm. Not the exact same setting in the pick-up for both rods and gasket choice obvs critical, so we'd have to be careful. If the makers had ever gone this route they'd have made the not-a-brush adjustable for depth I think and issued appropriate fitting instructions to avoid a foul-up.

Didn't run at high speed for long as didn't want to risk a problem on my best spare K2F, so dunno if there'd be dimples or tracking problems on the slipring segment in prolonged use owing to the arcing.

Given that a mag will run with a disintegrated carbon brush quite often, arcing away to the spring if that hasn't fallen out, I wasn't expecting it not to work, but was quite surprised at how 'the same' both sides of the mag performed when running it with one brush and one not-a-brush.

But, not wanting to risk the new slipring, or even maybe stress the rewound coil's insulation, toys are now back in their cupboard.
Does say though that if a brush fails on the road, a bit of something metallic rammed tight up the pick-up will at least get you home.

And thanks to you TT for raising the question.
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A7 & A10 Engine / Re: A10 cylinder and head on A7
« Last post by perlut on 27.03. 2025 06:57 »
Tnx for your answers.  *smiley4*

I'll will try to post some pictures tomorrow.
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A7 & A10 Engine / Re: A10 cylinder and head on A7
« Last post by Black Sheep on 27.03. 2025 06:33 »
Worked fine on my A7. It went rather well!
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A7 & A10 Engine / Re: A10 cylinder and head on A7
« Last post by Peter in Aus on 27.03. 2025 00:53 »
I fitted a A10 head to A7 engine with .060 oversize bore worked fine for me *smile*
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Lucas, Ignition, Charging, Electrical / Re: Pick-up brushes (again)
« Last post by berger on 26.03. 2025 21:20 »
Jim my dad did a test for a trainee back in the late 1930's that was supposed to help the lad find out what was wrong with the engine ,my dad pulled the wire cores out of the leads and much to everyone's surprise the engine fired up , it must have left traces in the old rubber outer insulation ::hh::
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There is a bit of confusion on here, probably my fault. The yellow boxes with pre-printed thumb prints are modern Hepolite brand which are nothing to do with the original Hepolite. I'm not aware of anything else with pre-printed thumb prints. Hepolite don't do pick-up brushes and never did. The green boxes with Lucas on are mostly products distributed by Wassell which, generally, I find to be of good quality and much better than the stuff Wassells used to sell (and maybe still do) in white boxes. This applies to the pickup brushes as well. By far the best brushes are new-old-stock original Lucas which were sold in red and white boxes and the brushes were wrapped in tissue paper. However, the 'Lucas' pick-up brushes sold new in green and white Lucas boxes are fine. I use them all the time and my bikes don't suffer pick-up brush problems. When using them it is worth rubbing the tips to remove loose residue before fitting. Other than that, they're fine. The brushes which are cr4p are only sold as part of a complete pick-up set in a white box. Some unscrupulous dealers might be swapping things around so beware. The dodgy brushes have a polished appearance and you can draw all day with them. The 'Lucas' brushes release a small amount of fine dust when first put to use but, once this is rubbed off, they're fine, which is why I give them a rub before fitting. The only brushes I'm aware of that are sold new today are the 'Lucas' ones. If that is not the case, please let me know!
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