The BSA A7-A10 Forum
Bikes, Pictures, Stories & more => Chat, Offtopic & Everything Else => Topic started by: jhg1958 on 31.07. 2023 12:28
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It is a slow day with my bike in storage and it is raining. For the past 2 years I keep an eye on actions of motorbikes that I am interested in. I was curious to see of the prices are going up or down as it has been the subject of recent posts. So plotted the data on a graph and put a trend line on it. Given there is only 10 data points and that the A10s come in all different specs and condition the trend does seem to show the prices falling with an average of £3900.
John
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the trend does seem to show the prices falling with an average of £3900.
John
I think you should go back to statistics school.
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Heavy bikes are dropping in value with A10'S particularly hard hit with the exception of RGSs which seem to be increasing a bit. Triumphs are a bit more popular, no idea why.
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Yeah, I think they're dropping off a bit, even here where prices have been high normally. But there's always a bit of the old:
'Wanna buy one? - they're rocking horse shit mate'
'Wanna sell one? - they're two-a-bloody-penny mate'
Rare and / or exceptional will no doubt always sell. Shame I don't have a lot of either!
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TBH, I have bikes I've built or bought just because I like them, not for any financial reason. I don't think BSA A10's have ever been a serious investment, though for a period of time they were going up in value. Anybody who has ever thought 'run of the mill' classic bikes are, or were, an investment is probably chasing dreams. I've heard of people who tell their wives that they're an investment!
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TBH, I have bikes I've built or bought just because I like them, not for any financial reason. I don't think BSA A10's have ever been a serious investment, though for a period of time they were going up in value. Anybody who has ever thought 'run of the mill' classic bikes are, or were, an investment is probably chasing dreams. I've heard of people who tell their wives that they're an investment!
Yep, I did that, though she just laughed at me
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I keep up with trends through my dealer friend. The inevitable has finally arrived! We're all getting older and weaker. He's selling more lightweights and pre- war stuff, which are lighter. He's inundated with people trying to sell collections for top dollar or bereavement sales. Some of the, so called, restorations are appalling, requiring loads of remedial work to get them working properly and/or safe. Younger people are going for the Japanese bikes they had, or desired, in their youth. It had to happen. But then I'm not telling you anything you didn't already know!
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I don't think run-of-the-mill bikes have ever been an investment, but it was nice, up until recently, to know that you'd get your money back when it was time for a change.
Always brings a wry smile when I see some rusty Japanese bike being advertised as a "sought-after Japanese classic" or some mundane 1950s commuter described as "collectable".
I don't get the idea that "younger people are going for the japanese bikes of their youth" either.
Assume they were 20 in 1975 and lusted after RD's and Honda fours. That makes them about 68 now, which is rather late to be suddenly thinking of reliving their youth on Fizzies and Bloops..
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I don't think run-of-the-mill bikes have ever been an investment, but it was nice, up until recently, to know that you'd get your money back when it was time for a change.
Always brings a wry smile when I see some rusty Japanese bike being advertised as a "sought-after Japanese classic" or some mundane 1950s commuter described as "collectable".
I don't get the idea that "younger people are going for the japanese bikes of their youth" either.
Assume they were 20 in 1975 and lusted after RD's and Honda fours. That makes them about 68 now, which is rather late to be suddenly thinking of reliving their youth on Fizzies and Bloops..
Yep, its not that simple! I’m 64 and owned a 59 super rocket when I was 17, so bought an A10 as a hobby many years later, when I felt I could afford it, but I also owned a newish 900SS Duke and Benelli 750-6 after the SR but there is no way I could justify buying one of those nowadays.
My brother is only a year younger and had a newish CB750 sohc in his youth, and now owns one as a hobby. He also owned a newish 750 bonnie after the CB750 but has no interest nowadays in owning an old brit bike.
I guess its a bit of an incorrect assumption people want to relive one of the NEW bikes they had in their youth, when many (as in my case) owned bikes (or cars) that were 15 years or older in their youth, mainly for cost reasons.
To complicate things I also recently bought an ‘84 Lotus Excel cos I had an ‘88 one in ‘97, but my FIRST car was a ‘66 MGB and I don’t want an MGB now, cos of the rust my ‘66 suffered from.
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Then there's the situation with BSA Goldies. The continuing high prices are put down to "what people lusted after when they were young", although assuming the scenario of used rather than new as above, say a 20 year old wanted a DBD34 in 1970 (close on ten years old and looking very old-fashioned at that time) then he's now 73, and hardly likely to want the hassle of starting and riding a Goldie.
Maybe they'll one day drop in price enough for me to get one.. ;)
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G'day Rex.
I agree. Most people that remember our A7/10's in their youth are either dead or too old to kickstart (present company excluded). Both my A's are older than me. New bikes that I lusted over in my youth was the Ducati SS900.
Cheers
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G'day Rex.
I agree. Most people that remember our A7/10's in their youth are either dead or too old to kickstart (present company excluded). Both my A's are older than me. New bikes that I lusted over in my youth was the Ducati SS900.
Cheers
Yep thats the 900ss I (sort of) owned, I had a all silver one in the late 70’s for a few months “on approval” whilst the owner worked in the middle east, he wanted 1400 quid for it (from memory) but I didn’t hand over the cash when he got back, the main reason was the bike was only a year old and the exposed bits of the shafts coming out of the engine had gone rusty (not plated!) as had the handlebars. The electrics were unreliable. Handling was ponderous albeit it was very stable, it had a very good top speed but not great acceleration. Overall the quality was rubbish and to get parts the importers of Italian bikes broke every 4th bike imported (allegedly).
A few years later I bought a Benelli 750 sei and owned that for 18 years.
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"Most people that remember our A7/10's in their youth are either dead or too old to kickstart"
My first road bike was a A10, I'm not dead and can still kickstart a bike ! I bought it when I was 15 ready for when I got my licence at 16.
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It is a slow day with my bike in storage and it is raining. For the past 2 years I keep an eye on actions of motorbikes that I am interested in. I was curious to see of the prices are going up or down as it has been the subject of recent posts. So plotted the data on a graph and put a trend line on it. Given there is only 10 data points and that the A10s come in all different specs and condition the trend does seem to show the prices falling with an average of £3900.
John
prices will vary depending on the country your in ....not so many of the younger generation getting into older bikes they all want plastic crotch rockets .
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"Most people that remember our A7/10's in their youth are either dead or too old to kickstart"
My first road bike was a A10, I'm not dead and can still kickstart a bike ! I bought it when I was 15 ready for when I got my licence at 16.
G'day Brian.
I did say "present company excluded"
Cheers
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"Most people that remember our A7/10's in their youth are either dead or too old to kickstart"
Well I'm not dead (yet) and I can easily kick my A10 over *smile*.
I had two (almost new) A10s in the 1960s and rode every day out of necessity . . . and I have an A10 now, which gets ridden both summer and winter here in the UK (albeit not every day - and only when it's dry). In the years between I've had dozens of both Brit 'kick em to start' and Japanese 'push the button' bikes of all shapes and sizes.
Why do I have a couple of ancient British bikes now, when I've got a modern car? - Because I like them and also to have the pleasure of maintaining them and then 'actually riding them for pleasure'.
Rog.